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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I am this woman

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 22/01/2018 14:57

twitter.com/dzongsar/status/955449900732305408

I am this woman #spartacus #peaktrans #womenswords

Twitterers - please copy and RT

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Caillearchy · 23/01/2018 14:09

I used the main party site, but if I don't get a reply today I'll do that as well.

BeyondWW · 23/01/2018 14:13

I think fur means "kool aid central, Canada", rather than "central Canada" Grin

lizzieoak · 23/01/2018 15:07

That makes sense Beyond! It was the middle of the night for me and I was somewhat concerned about the tsunami warning they were threatening us with!

Caille, while they are the same party (unlike provincial and federal Liberals) It’s completely different staff etc and Morgane was running and apparently works for the NDP at the provincial level.

I’m intrigued to see how this goes. Morgane has deleted the post, but there’s screen caps aplenty. People’s vitriol against the sign woman horrifies me - where does it come from? Many of the nastiest posters advocating violence against her are women.

lizzieoak · 23/01/2018 16:23

Has anyone posted this link yet? Even me (getting a cold/addled by lack of sleep due to tsunami warning). It’s a very good article and this from the comments section.

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MasterWu · 23/01/2018 17:35

This woman really is something special.Shocking, that one of the bravest things I have seen in a while is a woman daring to define the word 'woman' at the women's march.

Really? Holding a placard is one of the "bravest" things you've seen in a while? White middle class women and their feminism eh? Grin

Not much support for the brown people fighting real oppression is there?

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EamonnWright · 23/01/2018 17:36

www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/whatson/whats-on/upcoming-events/2018/mar/sappho-to-suffrage?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Didn't know where to drop this. It popped up on a football forum I use.

EggsonHeads · 23/01/2018 17:41

I love the response. I'm not really a peak transer but this is one time that the internet got shit right.

EggsonHeads · 23/01/2018 17:41

Also a "concerned citizen"? Is this Stalinist Russia?!

lizzieoak · 23/01/2018 17:55

Master Wu, I seriously hope you don’t think white women should just shush about feminism as somewhere someone is suffering in a different way. Just because we’re not in a war zone does not mean we need to be good little women and keep quiet about women’s equality and women’s spaces.

lizzieoak · 23/01/2018 17:57

A close up of the trans women are women sign at a march. Note the penis with “fuck your pussy hats” written on it.

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furcoatnaeknickers · 23/01/2018 18:12

Yes beyond that’s what I meant but was missing an apostrophe!

How can anyone think that penis hat picture is ok on a woman’s march! And the male dominatrix speaker is just about enough to make your head explode 😡

SmartiesHaveTheAnswer · 23/01/2018 18:20

Nice try Wu, you show little understanding of the issue here.

The same patronising thing could be said about these violent TRA's. Don't they know that thousands of men are dying in wars every year as they practice their contouring and look for concerned women to bully?

See?

SmartiesHaveTheAnswer · 23/01/2018 18:21

The comments on Facebook leave me cold actually. The frenzied hate is evident in all posts and each one is so irrationally blinded.

OpalIridescence · 23/01/2018 18:22

master wu

Some beautiful whatterboutery there.

In fact, I am capable of admiring bravery in all its extreme and quieter forms. I will continue to appreciate any brave women, publicly, going against what is expected of her.

I can admire bravery regardless of the skin colour of the women, can you?

EamonnWright · 23/01/2018 18:29

The comments on Facebook leave me cold actually. The frenzied hate is evident in all posts and each one is so irrationally blinded

Best thing I done was delete Facebook.

Caillearchy · 25/01/2018 06:29

Here's the email I sent to the BC NDP:

I'm writing to express my concern about the actions of Morgane Oger, who has used social media to attempt to 'out' a woman who attended the Vancouver Women's March.

If, as Oger claims, a "hate crime" has been comitted, the proper thing to do would be to ask law enforcement to look in to it. Oger chose instead to target this woman publicly, on Facebook and Twitter, which of course encourages people who may have information to publicly respond.

Oger's reason for wanting to obtain the woman's private details also vary from wanting to "serve" her legally, to wanting to "sit down over a coffee". Women are very familiar with this behaviour from abusers. No woman owes Oger her physical presence or the opportunity to harangue her in person.

Oger is currently 'doubling down' against hundreds of people pointing out what a dangerous and irresponsible thing this is to do, cheekily claiming that this is not doxing but "crowd sourced" information gathering.

The online safety of women is a serious issue. Harrassment is rife. Doxing is a tactic used by the lowest of the low to intimidate. It impacts not only the intended victim but their families, workplaces, and even people of similar names who may be mistaken for the target. For example, Oger recently attempted to fire shots at BC Lib candidate Diane Watts on Twitter and instead directed ire at Dianne Watts, former Surrey mayor.

Oger's actions are unethical, dangerous, and display an alarming lack of empathy and common sense.

If the NDP isn't unethical, dangerous, and lacking in empathy and common sense, you should let people know.

thebewilderness · 25/01/2018 06:36

2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.

AngryAttackKittens · 25/01/2018 06:45

"Sit down for coffee" is at least an original way to say "punch her in the face".

No hate crime has been committed so far, but if the Ogre gets the information he's looking for there way well be. Gotta say though, he's doing a great job of peak transing a bunch of previously oblivious people/

hipsterfun · 25/01/2018 13:09

Doxing is a tactic used by the lowest of the low to intimidate. It impacts not only the intended victim but their families, workplaces, and even people of similar names who may be mistaken for the target.

Indeed, but it’s worse than that; it impacts all women who have ever thought twice before having an opinion online.

theaveragewife · 25/01/2018 19:59

It reminds me of the bully at school who would tell other girls to come into the toilet for a 'chat'. Sounds nice, means she's going to try and flush your head down the toilet.

I'm that woman, but like a pp only on facebook so far - I'm worried about twitter.

lizzieoak · 26/01/2018 17:58

Is it just me? I’m not very Twitter conversant, just joined so I could see the threads on the Vancouver woman with the sign - but I don’t see that thread on Morgane’s Twitter. There will be screen caps galore, but she may have taken down her call to identify the sign holder. And she’s instructing people to call people “TERs” now, instead of “TERFs” (oh well, that’s okay then Hmm)

Agerbilatemycardigan · 26/01/2018 18:03

I'll admit that I did an air punch when I saw this the other day. Also, the look on her face is priceless Grin

UpstartCrow · 26/01/2018 18:03

MasterWu I'm a bit surprised you don't know that woman is acting in defiance of canadian law and her own govt, in a group of thousands of people who could be aggressive to her POV.

When your own govt is against you and you speak out, yes that's a form of bravery. Far braver than spouting 'trans women are women' on command.

Yes we get that no one is shooting at us. We are trying to stop it getting to that point. Women in most of the world are subservient to men and subject to their violence. We dont particularly want to join them but we are swimming against the tide.

Bowednotbroken · 26/01/2018 22:31

Like PP I would love to be this woman - but fear I'm not brave enough