Feminist Discrimination

[Vicky1990]

On radio 4 woman's hour the two presenters, Jane Garvey and Jenny Murrey declare themselves as feminist, and as such many of the items discussed discriminate against men.
Is this fair as the BBC is supposed to fair, impartial, and not to discriminate on grounds of gender.
Half the population has no voice on the BBC as it is Male, this does not seem to be in keeping with impartiality to me, what do you think ?.

Theres a Womens Hour and no Mens Hour because Mens Hour closed for lack of interest, and men dont want to listen to talk about wombs. They complain it isnt relevant to them.

vicky

As a number of posters have now said there was a mens hour

So thats fine isnt it

Great, glad people on here could help, im sure you feel much better now

I didn't even know that there was a mens hour that men couldn't be arsed to tune into so thats a new fact for me

So thats good as well..win, win

guardian - That's an article from The Guardian giving breakdowns as of 2013, across 30 UK stations (Radio 4 included, but not exclusively, since many people listen to other stations!)

Womans' Hour existed then though, so to OP, I'm sure these stats are relevant enough.

Highlight:

Shared presenter hours total

Men & women - 57%
Men & men - 39%
Women & women - 4%

Men & Men have lots and lots of time to present men's issues.

Vicky if Woman Hour was to be made so there is a better parity between men and women and was talking about men issue for half an hour over an hour, would it then be fair to demand this to be the case for any other program?
How do you think you DH and ds wouod feel when their favourite program (whatever the radio) was made to be just as balanced in the interests and pov so that it also represented men and women 50/50.
Do you think they wouod enjoy a program on football for example with that parity, 50% women football?
Or 50% of women in politics talking about the issue swomen have, aka wages, childcare, maternity leave etc... rather than just taxes or whatever a ‘man’ can be interested in.
I suspect theynwoiodnhate it.

So please, just let that hour ‘for women’ alone —unless you really want to upset your DH and ds—

Maybe they should listen to the 8 out of 10 male presenters on the Today Show. That was 2012 though. It has probably been taken over by rabid feminists by now.

Radio 4 is the main BBC speech station, if as has been stated men's hour was put out on radio 5 then it is no surprise it wasn't listened too as everyone was listening to radio 4, where half the audience is men, it's not rocket science.

its not rocket science?

oh thats funny

Are you going to comment on any other points?

Now its been ascertained that you actually want a mans hour on the same channel as womans hour

That really wasn't clear from your OP

here, have another

Men's hour went to R5 because it had a bigger male audience at the time, especially across the age and social groups. It was put in the slot and station most likely to get male listeners.

Find someone who can explain to you what balance means in the context of the BBC charter.

Assuming you actually give a flying ferret about the answers

Just had a little look. Radio 6 Sports has 2 women on it's front page and probably 30 men. Radio 6 main page about 2 men to every one woman (I'm being generous). BBC iPlayer site is about 2 men to every one woman. Two transvestites, if that helps...

I think Vicky is onto something. I'm happy to shove a couple of blokes on 'Women's Hour' if every program with all men or majority men is forced to do the same. Who's with me?

Sounds good to me mrsT

Especially as i dont listen to radio 4 and dont really care

Half women presenters, half women's sports, half women guests

Actually it sounds great

vicky start a petition and i will definitely sign

I volunteer to be the woman on Kermode and Mayo.

Taking one for the team

Nicely played mrsT

Radio 4 is the main BBC speech station
OP you are so right. Radio 5 is just all.....people waffling all day.
Gosh. Think I will boycott woman's hour from now on, until they get some male presenters who definitely aren't femijist

I dont think you knew there was a mans hour on the bbc vicky

Did you really type that the world be a better place if men had a voice on the radio??

What radio exactly do you think men don't have a voice on?

They're talking on mine all the time.

Vicky
I don’t listen to Woman’s hour every day sadly as I work a couple of mornings a week. However I think you’ll find that ‘men’s issues’ and issues pertaining to all people are discussed on a regular basis, eg testicular cancer, male infertility, adoption, transgender concerns, educational underachievement in boys, social housing, cost of university education, domestic violence to men to name a few.

Woman’s Hour also is a beacon of excellence for long in-depth interviews of politicians, male and female, which really explore the politicians’ beliefs across the board.

Men’s issues are well and truly covered in other programmes, with far more male presenters than women. The fact that Woman’s Hour has a sizeable male audience is to its credit and I for one would be extremely disappointed and angry if anyone were to suggest doing away with it. I have no objection to a Men’s Hour, although Radio 5 comes pretty close with little coverage of women’s sports. I would have no automatic objection to male interviewers or editorial staff. I think the fact that it is called Woman’s Hour, focuses the mind of those working in the programme to produce high quality, in-depth journalism from a female perspective which much of Radio 4 doesn’t do, although as a whole it is improving. And I love and adore Radio 4. In fact I’m just off now for a spot of work and I’ll be turning it on!

I’m wondering if the OP is reading these responses and digesting the statistics.

If so, perhaps she might start to understand the reason for feminism.

if the BBC better reflected its audience and men had a voice on the radio then perhaps the world would be a better place.

If men had a voice on the radio? Ok, now you’re just being silly.