Feminist Discrimination

[Vicky1990]

On radio 4 woman's hour the two presenters, Jane Garvey and Jenny Murrey declare themselves as feminist, and as such many of the items discussed discriminate against men.
Is this fair as the BBC is supposed to fair, impartial, and not to discriminate on grounds of gender.
Half the population has no voice on the BBC as it is Male, this does not seem to be in keeping with impartiality to me, what do you think ?.

Just why are men so afraid of women talking without men present?

To answer a few points raised .

I am a woman. My husband and son's do not get there issues discussed. The BBC is breaking its own editorial code of been impartial. And as the Two presenters are feminist's there comments regarding men are biased, listen very carefully to the language used.

Also why do we not have a Men's hour on radio 4 to discuss their issues, what harm would that do to women ?.

Thanks for trying.

What sort of issue do men have that need to be raised?
Do you think these issues are never ever raised?
So you really think it’s more likely that women issues are going to discussed compare to men? So always hear about women issues but never about men’s??

And of course, you need to look at the society at large. One program cannot and never will be representative of what happens in the society at large.

Looking forward to see your answers, especially to the first question.

What issues do you think your husband and sons have that aren't discussed?

And looking at your previous posts you seem very worried that men aren't getting a fair deal.

Why do you think you - as an obvious woman as you have stated, need to try and address this?

And as the Two presenters are feminist's there comments regarding men are biased, listen very carefully to the language used.

You keep saying it’s discriminatory. And that the language is biased. But you’re not providing any examples, whatsoever.

Perhaps, if you can’t identify any, you could ask your husband and sons to specify what on earth it is they are talking about?

I doubt the husband and sons give even a tiny fuck about womans hour since they know that the entire world is weighted to give them massive advantages because they live it every day.

Only MRAs get pissy about this sort of thing because they're annoyed that some women don't do exactly what they want all the time.

Yeah it’s gone from ‘many items being discussed discriminate against men’ to ‘if you listen very carefully to the language’.

What next? A week last Thursday Jenni Murray snorted in a way that I interpreted as being derisory, possibly to man she knew in 1974.

The OP seems to have a history of blaming 'the feminists' for a lot of things.

As do so many women..

"Also why do we not have a Men's hour on radio 4 to discuss their issues, what harm would that do to women ?"
It's like "When is it International Men's Day" isn't it? There was a Men's Hour. Nobody listened.

Out of interest, what issues would you like to see discussed?

Also why do we not have a Men's hour on radio 4 to discuss their issues, what harm would that do to women ?

So what harm is Woman's hour doing to men (using your own logic there)?

Programmes are allowed to have target audiences. Woman's hour target audience is mainly women. Why do your son and husband have to get their issues discussed there?

Weren't there anti feminist groups during the Suffragette movement who got all aeriated about not nearly enough antimacassars being crocheted and no one making tea when the men got home, and who used to write agitated letters and have agitated meetings about it? Maybe there's still one left in existence somewhere for you to join OP?

If you feel that 'feminist' really does mean 'anti men' you need to do a whole lot of reading . Start with the article linked above showing how very little space women are allowed on panel shows, it's shocking.

Men’s hour, Mitchell and Webb

m.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFcHrcQ-Us

I’ll just leave this here!

3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
Also fyi, November 19th is International Men's Day so I am sure the BBC will give them an hour to mansplain how unfairly they are being treated.

My husband and son's do not get there issues discussed. What are their issues? And explain why they can't have these issues discussed on the hundreds of hours of programming which aren't Women's Hour.

Ha ha ha ha ha... good one OP.

Oh.

You weren't joking.

(BTW, anyone else despairing of the low quality of troll we're attracting at the moment? They all seem to be as thick as mince.)

Down with this sort of thing!

Careful now.

Thank you all for your comments, however i think the discussion has missed the point so let me try again.
Firstly let me apologise to Apple Katie, she obviously is a better person than me as the way i write is not up to her well educated standard, i apologise, but i think my meaning is clear.
My comments are only concerning Woman's hour on radio 4, i do not listen to any other station so cannot make remarks on them.
Radio 4 is paid for by both men and women, and as far as i know is the ONLY programme gender specific, hence the name.
The Two presenters are white, middle aged, middle classed, female, well educated, well paid and feminist, so no diversity there then.
It has been stated many times on woman's hour that half the audience is male, that is where i get 50% from.
The content of the programme may be compiled by the production team, but the off the cuff remarks and running commentary are the presenters own words and reflect there own attitudes.
Apart from the obvious reproductive difference between men and women every thing else is the same, family, health, children, child care, work, money, discrimination and so on.
Raging feminist asked, what sort of issue do men have that need to be raised?.
I think that about sums it up, if the BBC better reflected its audience and men had a voice on the radio then perhaps the world would be a better place.
If the 15 minute story was got rid off, then the hour could be devoted to both men and women, as i said before, what harm would it do to women if men had the same rights.

what harm would it do to women if men had the same rights.

And you intentionally turned up to post this on the women's rights board because?

Sorry what? If half the audience is male and the issues discussed are relevant to both sexes then what is the problem? The fact that both presenters are women? And if so, do you see a similar problem with programs which have male presenters?

vicky

Did you see the post regarding mens hour?

So as far as i can see

There was a mens hour, which folded as no one was tuning in

i think my meaning is clear.

It absolutely, totally is. It's also a load of old bollocks.

Vicky1990 = Kenneth1956