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Court put in lockdown as dangerous 'dirty protest' transexual prisoner appears in dock half naked

88 replies

pisacake · 07/10/2017 16:13

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/court-put-lockdown-dangerous-dirty-11081394
"A courtroom was put into lockdown today for the sentencing of a transexual prisoner said to be one of the most dangerous inmates in the whole of the Scottish prison system.

Tiffany Scott, formerly known as Andrew Burns, was led into the dock, half naked to the waist, wearing the remains of a shirt torn to shreds, before shouting vile abuse at a sheriff."

"Members of the public were cleared from the courtroom, amid fears that Scott, who has been known to bite open his own veins and spray blood at people, presented "a clear danger"."

"Scott shouted "f*g transphobe bd" and "c**" as Sheriff Livingston jailed him for a further year on five charges of assault and one of criminal damage, ordering the term to be served consecutive to his present, indeterminate sentence."

"The charges followed incidents between August and October 2015 while Scott, of Kinglassie, Fife, was in a segregation unit in Glenochil.

At the time, prison staff were complying with his requests that he should be known as "Mighty Almighty", or Obi Wan Kenobi."

"He covered himself in excrement which he also smeared round his cell door and over the observation port, and staged a self-hanging by shredding his tear-proof clothing into strips and making a noose, which he suspended from a sprinkler valve.

Warders – wearing full-body protective clothing, including helmet, visor, and gloves, and carrying 4ft by 2ft Plexiglass shields amid fears that Scott was armed with a medical cannula she had ripped from her body during hospital treatment – had to burst into her cell to save his life."

"Fellow prison officer Colin Park, 41, said Scott had told staff he had "weapons secreted", such as razor blades and needles, with which he could have harmed them, which was why he and his fellow officers had to wear full protective clothing to enter her cell and cut the noose from her neck during her attempted hanging."

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sex-swap-prisoner-sparks-revolt-7666459

"Violent criminal Andrew Burns, who has changed his name to Tiffany Scott, is demanding only female officers search him.

But three guards are defying orders to give him intimate body checks and have brought in their trade union to back them up.

The 25-year-old, who also calls himself Mitzababy, is not undergoing any treatment to transition to female.

“This week, he insisted on being strip-searched by female warders instead of males.

“The women gritted their teeth and did what they were told on the first day. But on the next shift, they refused point blank.

“Nobody blames them. Burns is creepy and quite clearly a man so there’s no reason why professional warders should have to go along with this fantasy.”"

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RebelRogue · 07/10/2017 17:44

I think @jennielou75 is onto something here.

Ereshkigal · 07/10/2017 17:45

Deliberately trying to make women search him against their will seems quite a calculated act.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 07/10/2017 17:48

Please tell me he has no chance of being indulged when he demands to transfer to a women’s prison? Shock

Allthelightsgoout · 07/10/2017 17:56

He is obviously a deeply disturbed individual.

But he's also trying to cause as much trouble as possible for the prison service as he can. Changing his name repeatedly, now claiming to be trans. He previously claimed to be Jewish to get kosher food and led a massive prison revolt over it which caused chaos.

He's been 'at war' with the system for years.

People and the prison service get stuck in these cycles which damage everyone involved but when you are serving an indeterminate prison sentence you don't have a lot to lose and you have plenty of time to think up the next way you can cause as much chaos as possible. He hates the prison service, they hate him and round and round it goes.

Jarhead · 07/10/2017 18:08

I think @jennielou75 is onto something here.

Me too, this man is 'not undergoing any treatment to transition', insisting on being strip searched by women, demanding he be called his (ridiculous) name of choice, he's clearly taking the piss whether he's mentally ill or not. I feel angry on genuine trans people's behalf when I read stories like this, he's exploiting (and making a mockery of) their situation for his own gain and he's far from alone in doing so.

AdalindSchade · 07/10/2017 18:09

This is just a man taking the piss out of transgender people

Nah. He’s a man who claims to be transgender AND is also severely mentally ill and dangerous. He’s no more or less transgender than gentle Susan who works in accounts or Caitlin Jenner or any other fucker. Transgender is a subjective reality with no objective test.
The useful thing about nasty violent bastards like this one is they make people really not want to call them women or force women to pretend they are women. It exposes the nonsense of the transgender belief system.

Ereshkigal · 07/10/2017 18:11

The useful thing about nasty violent bastards like this one is they make people really not want to call them women or force women to pretend they are women. It exposes the nonsense of the transgender belief system.

YYY.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/10/2017 18:12

Me too, this man is 'not undergoing any treatment to transition', insisting on being strip searched by women, demanding he be called his (ridiculous) name of choice, he's clearly taking the piss whether he's mentally ill or not. I feel angry on genuine trans people's behalf when I read stories like this, he's exploiting (and making a mockery of) their situation for his own gain and he's far from alone in doing so

But how is this different from many transwomen who do not transition in any way other than changing their pronouns?

AdalindSchade · 07/10/2017 18:13

he's clearly taking the piss whether he's mentally ill or not. I feel angry on genuine trans people's behalf when I read stories like this, he's exploiting (and making a mockery of) their situation for his own gain

No true Scotsman eh? Nope. He’s as much transgender as anybody who says they are transgender. No more and no less.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 07/10/2017 18:16

No different at all, ItsAllGoingToBeFine

DJBaggySmalls · 07/10/2017 18:19

I pity the staff who have to deal with him, they should get danger pay.

theendisnotnigh · 07/10/2017 18:20

While I agree that he is likely to be mentally ill, I have to agree that his behaviour exposes the dangers of self identification that women are repeatedly criticised for stating. And yes, according to transgender activists, if he says he's transgender then he must be treated as such. Those poor female officers. I hope that their Union is on their side.

doctorcuntybollocks · 07/10/2017 18:30

According to the article, he's from Kinglassie.

DJBaggySmalls · 07/10/2017 18:36

This is a previous article about Burns. He isnt 'taking the piss out of transgender people', I doubt he even thinks about them. His conduct is not aimed at trans people but at the staff who have to deal with him - he regularly attacks women.

Burns has as much right to decide he is transgender as anyone else, since there are no laws preventing violent offenders from changing their gender or name.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/too-dangerous-dock-prisoner-andrew-10272096

Tiredemma · 07/10/2017 18:40

Why isn’t this man in Broadmoor?

To be considered for Broadmoor he would have to present as a grave and immediate danger to others. Sounds like he is troubled but not significantly risky to others.

he could do with a spell in a psychiatric bed though

ItsNachoCheese · 07/10/2017 18:41

This is an old article i read it a couple of months ago

Terfing · 07/10/2017 18:42

Hang on, isn't it illegal for women to show their breasts in public? Why was Tiffany allowed to do it? Hmm

StealthPolarBear · 07/10/2017 18:44

I think he knows exactly what he's doing

Abra1d · 07/10/2017 18:45

Reminds me of the IRA.

MissDreamGirl · 07/10/2017 18:48

It sounds like severe personality disorder, rather than symptoms of a mental illness - and a psych ward is very unlikely to be helpful

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 07/10/2017 18:51

Good point terfing!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/10/2017 18:59

Not in Broadmoor because he's in Scotland (amongst other things). Scotland has its own high security hospital at Carstairs. Even in England Broadmoor isn't the only high security psychiatric hospital. Ashworth and Rampton are the others.

teaandakitkat · 07/10/2017 20:21

Makes me very glad I don't have to work in a prison, and very grateful to those who do. It must be a horrendous job at times.

retreatwhispering · 07/10/2017 20:22

So the man is clearly disturbed and violent. It sounds like he isn't getting anywhere near the right kind of treatment/support.

But FFS, who told those poor female warders to strip search a dangerous, violent man who was suspected of secreting weapons? And how on earth did we get to the point that this was even allowed? A point where they felt obliged to grit their teeth and perform a search rather than immediately refuse? Some transactivists should be ashamed of themselves. This is all to do with a massive shift in the prevailing culture which disadvantages women. Absolutely disgraceful.

I hope that the warders' unions help them to kick up a huge stink.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/10/2017 23:07

Makes me very glad I don't have to work in a prison, and very grateful to those who do. It must be a horrendous job at times.

Indeed. And with all the shit (literal and metaphorical) dished out to them, they still saved this person's life.

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