Hugh Hefner dies at 91

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So seems as good a time as any to share this.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/26/gloria-steinem-bunny-tale-still-relevant-today

Well, he bought the plot next to her in 92? I think. She was the first playmate you know, so very special to him. I think it's very sad, seen as a sex symbol and dumb blonde for all eternity and now the final insult.

She wasn't even a playmate, she didn't pose for him did she. It was old photos taken before she was famous.

Maybe. They used the pics to launch the first issue, didn't they? I might have my facts wrong but I can't be arsed googling it will just depress me.

I just found this article and it has a video of the actual footage of HH referring to Susan Brownmiller as a 'girl'
time.com/3963237/playboy-feminists-brownmiller-hefner/

actual footage of HH referring to Susan Brownmiller as a 'girl

Hugh started fumbling around with his pipe when she called him on that. I bet he had words with his press agent after that one.

Oh bore off Crowdo.

Go and troll elsewhere.

Is that the best answer you can come up with, Dave? Rather ironic for someone insulting the intelligence of others.

Dunno crowdo. It got the point across pretty well I'd say.

I'm sorry for his family and that is all. A nasty piece of work, can't see why it's news. Who cares?

Good riddance. Hopefully this will be the end of his 'magazine' too!

I'm surprised you think mentioning the size of someone's breasts in the same sentence as their intelligence is really appropriate for a feminist discussion, OP.

The magazine has all but died since moving online anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see a resurgence of that stupid logo, we where bombarded with a few years ago. I remember teaching children who where wearing it emblazoned on their coats and school bags. I suppose it will be seen as "nostalgic" now.

“We are in the process of acquiring a new moral maturity and honesty,” he wrote while keeping a straight face.

Good riddance.

And all the idiots claiming he was some sort of positive force for women's sexual liberation can fuck right off

Dan "I'm sorry for his family and that is all."

it's entirely possible they are relieved as well!

Did he have children?

Slim True!

Only thing Hefner ever liberated was his penis.

Shelagh Fogarty is discussing this now on LBC. She has suggested that far from being some kind of hero, he was just a dirty old man who abused young women. Good stuff

Sadly, she's discussing Hugh Hefner with Peter Stringfellow That's a vom face by the way. She almost got him to admit that he would not want his daughter to enter his foul industry. She suggested that the young women who were involved in Hefner's businesses went into 'a snake pit' and his highly original response was 'well they were paid weren't they?'. Ick.

Shelagh has slightly ruined it all now by telling Stringfellow that he is 'very likeable'

I'm desperate for Julie Bindel to be the next caller

interesting article by Suzanne Moore

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/28/hugh-hefner-pimp-sue-playboy-mansion?CMP=share_btn_tw

Shocking attention given to such a bad man. But he didn't force those girls/womens into doing anything they didn't want to do themselves.

I don't see people hurling abuse at those girls though...

I'm pretty sure all the woman in the playboy mansion and the magazine had minds of their own.
Has there been any claims that he forced any women to do things. Nope. They did it because they wanted to. Just because he was a lot older than them doesn't mean he was always the one in the wrong.
People make their own choices and clearly the women wanted some form of money or fame.

I don't see people hurling abuse at those girls though...

Are you saying you want people to do this?

Of course no one on the feminism board is yelling at the women - yes women, they weren't prepubescent, no need to use the infantilising term - as most of the people here understand the context of their choices.

Funnily enough feminists have slightly more to say negatively about the exploiter than the exploited.