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Speakers corner incident in mainstream press

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MoaningYoniAgain · 25/09/2017 14:09

Ok it's The Sun. I'm sorry. But even a stopped clock etcetera. Very balance piece today

www.thesun.co.uk/news/4537777/transgender-law-proposals-assault-hyde-park-opinion/

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 25/09/2017 14:11

I know it's the Sun, but the author, Miles Goslett, is a freelance journalist who has won a raft of awards for some really serious scoops:

From his Wiki page:
'Goslett has won the 'Scoop of the Year' award four times: once at the 2009 British Press Awards, and three times at the London Press Club awards in 2009, 2013 and 2016.[4][5]

The 2009 awards were for exposing the 'Sachsgate'[6][7][8] scandal. The 2013 award was for exposing the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal,[9][10] and is shared with journalists Meirion Jones, Liz MacKean and Mark Williams-Thomas. The 2016 award was for the Kids Company scandal.'

MoaningYoniAgain · 25/09/2017 14:33

Yes, it was very non-sensationalised, great work. Perhaps he might look at some of the related organisations (like he did with Kids Company) with the same vigour. I mean like Mermaids and Action for Trans Health with their ambitious manifesto, as seen here
edinburghath.tumblr.com/post/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto

From Edinburgh Action for Trans Health
INTRODUCTION
Following the centuries-long repression of trans lives at the hands of the state, the next stage in the UK government’s war of bureaucratic attrition is the recent publication of an NHS consultation that fails in every possible capacity, and a survey that gathers less data than we’ve already presented them. We call upon everyone fighting for the health of trans people to boycott this consultation & the survey, and reject its procedures & results in full. We encourage hostile participation in the form of direct submissions of demands that don’t react to the questions posed or restrict themselves to the scope imposed by the government.
We wholly reject the NHS’s attempt to codify the abuse, torment & traumatisation of trans people under the guise of ‘healthcare’. We demand accountability for the historic & present abuse of power that the NHS has encouraged glorified psychiatrists to carry out. You do not own our bodies, you cannot control our lives, and you will not prevent our needs being met. We will not tolerate compromise.
The following living document is our vision for trans futures. We do not consider that our work will ever be complete, there will always be greater things on the horizon. As such, this manifesto is not final, but an open draft which will evolve as we do. This is our call to action. We will fight anyone who stands in the way of universal liberation. This is war, and we will win.

TRANS HEALTH MANIFESTO

Trans health is bodily autonomy. We will express our needs, and they will be met. We will change our bodies however we want. We will have universally accessible and freely available hormones & blockers, surgical procedures, and any other relevant treatments and therapies. We will end the medical gatekeeping of our bodies. We will have full, historical accountability for the abuses perpetuated against us in the name of 'healthcare’. We will see reparations for these crimes, and the crimes committed against others in our names.
We are not too ill, too disabled, too anxious, too depressed, too psychotic, too Mad, too foreign, too young, too old, too fat, too thin, too poor, or too queer to make decisions about our bodies and our futures. We are all self-medicating. Our agency will be recognised. We each labour far harder for the health of ourselves and those around us than any doctor ever has, and we will continue build supportive communities on principles of mutual aid.
We deny the separation of bodies, minds, and selves - a violence against any part of us is a violence against all of us. We believe that the epidemic of chronic conditions in our communities is a consequence of the war of attrition waged against us over centuries. We do not exist in isolation, and it is essential to our healthcare that we are all healing together, healing each other, and healing our world. We will heal the damage of borders and states, government and authority, capitalism and imperialism.
We recognise that the history of trans medicine is a history of colonial and fascist abuse. We see the history of eugenicist experimentation from Nazi concentration camps, to the colonial implentation of the West’s regime of the gender binary, to virginity tests for South Asian and other Women of Colour in the UK in the 1970s; from the sterilisation & birth control trials forced on the women of Puerto Rico, to the thousands of Black and brown people who have died on NHS psychiatric wards; from the denial of the reproductive rights of disabled people, to the denial of access to abortions to people in the North of Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, past and present. We see the continued manifestation of eugenicist medicine in the denial of our bodily autonomy as trans people today: from coercive surgeries on intersex infants, to forced sterilisation in parts of europe, policing of and misinformation regarding our sexual reproduction, to gatekeeping of surgeries and medicines.
Our fight for bodily autonomy cannot be separated from our fight for reproductive justice. The demand to do what we want with our bodies is necessarily a demand for free and accessible abortions, for the decriminalisation of sex work, and for universal self-determination. We fight for an end to borders, prisons and police. We recognise that we do not exist independently of our environment, and so our fight for self-determination and health is a fight for climate justice, too. We are not separate from our environment, health is unattainable while the water is poisoned and the land is scorched.
There will be no clinics, and no authorities. We will conduct our own research, and experiment with our own bodies. We will heal and grow together. We will accumulate knowledge and share it freely and accessibly. We demand nothing less than the total abolition of the clinic, of psychiatry, and of the medical-industrial complex. We demand an end to capitalist & colonialist “medicine”.
We demand hormones & blockers are made available over-the-counter and by free prescription upon request. We need free, universal access to safe hormones & blockers at any age, the opportunity to decide our own doses, and universally accessible information on the safety & efficacy of different regimens. We are already taking hormones in this way, so this demand is simply that the danger of doing so is effectively mitigated.
We demand that all therapies that can be are made available at drop-ins, with self-referral for any therapy or procedure for which drop-in is unsuitable.
We demand anonymous blood tests, both postal & at drop-in endocrinology clinics, where we can seek the advice of a consultant if we wish.
We demand the freedom to alter our bodies without justification. We demand an end to all surgical prerequisites - nobody should have to prove life experience,health or have to be taking hormones in order to exercise bodily autonomy. We demand that these surgeries can be highly customised to meet our individual & unique needs. We demand the right to multiple surgeries, including reversal of previous surgeries if desired, so that we do not have to fear regret. We demand the free & timely provision of genital surgeries, additive & reductive chest surgeries, hysterectomies and orchiectomies, tracheal & vocal surgeries, facial surgeries, lipoplasty, contouring & microdermabrasion, surgical hair removal & transplantation, and any other possible procedure to meet our needs as we express them.
We demand resources for hair removal anywhere on our bodies, and the option of local anesthetic during these procedures.
We demand voice coaching that does not coerce us to alter our voices in ways we do not express a need for, but respects our accents and our right to express ourselves however we desire.
We demand access to counselling & and any other therapies we choose.
We demand the revocation of medical licenses from all gender clinic doctors & nurses, past and present.
We demand the power to hold abusers of medical & administrative power accountable for historical & present injustices.
We demand medical training to enable us to safely carry out medical procedures & research for each other, for anyone of us who wants to learn. We will enhance our collective knowledge, so that the means to understand our bodies is universally accessible. We demand to improve the quality of medications we take and procedures we undergo, to reduce negative side-effects in the long term, and to highlight our own experience and understanding of their effects on our bodies.
We demand research centres & libraries of knowledge, autonomously & horizontally organised by and for trans people, in which research subjects are equal participants in deciding the experiments conducted & the manner in which those experiments are carried out. We demand full funding for any research or projects undertaken by these collectives.
We demand mandatory education, written & taught entirely by trans people, at all educational stages, from nursery to adulthood. Trans kids have a need to understand themselves, in the context of their own bodies, lives & experiences. We must repair the damage done by section 28, the legacy of which is still causing harm to today’s children.
We demand material reparations for historical abuses against trans people, and for all people hurt by eugenicist medical practices and policies.
We demand an end to birth certificates and to legal gender. Gender records should be anonymised, and only ever recorded as part of equalities monitoring. Neither government, nor any institution, has any justification for keeping a register of trans people. Birth certificates are not just a violence against trans people, they are a material to the state’s oppression of “undocumented” immigrants and asylum seekers.
We demand good quality, accessible & safe homes for all; and demand adquate resources to trans and marginalised people to establish communes & housing co-operatives to schemes and projects.
We demand that trans people are immediately freed from police, military & government contracts without repercussions. We reject the system of blackmail that corporations and governments engage in, whereby trans people who can work are “rewarded” with slightly less mistreatment in exchange for the exploitation of our labour. We will not allow pinkwashing of the violence of capitalism, imperialism and the state.
We demand amnesty, recourse to public funds and indefinite right to remain for all trans, lesbian, gay and bisexual immigrants & asylum seekers. No one is illegal.
We demand immediate release & pardon for all trans prisoners.

Edinburgh Action for Trans Health

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FlaviaAlbia · 25/09/2017 14:37

That was a really excellent article, he'd clearly done his research and understood it. I liked the little information boxes too for the skim readers.

I never thought I'd see the day when the sun was more supportive of women's rights than any other paper (bar The Times and the fantastic Janice Turner) Shock

Sunkisses · 25/09/2017 14:42

Such a thorough article. Who would have thought the S*n had it in them?!

retreatwhispering · 25/09/2017 15:52

The Sun and the Times at the forefront of women's rights? I really am living in a parallel universe.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 25/09/2017 23:25

Ben Shapiro seems to have transgenderism to the forefront as well these days.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 25/09/2017 23:46

Sorry, not the Speaker's Corner incident but just posting here as it is of a muchness .It is very peculiar to hear a conservative, right wing libertarian saying things which many of you have said.

Shapiro doesn't like feminists but I suspect if you had a conversation with him he might get the point that there feminists are feminists.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/09/2017 01:19

Sorry I meant "there are feminists and feminists".

IndominusRex · 26/09/2017 10:38

Thought it was a good article and hadn't realised who the author was. That's very very interesting. I think he senses a scandal.

invisiblecats · 29/09/2017 09:37

I just saw there's a third video of the incident - have you seen it?

It's much more clear what happened. It starts because he young attacker in the hood runs at Maria to try to steal her camera. They don't manage to get it. Maria starts filming the young person who tried to steal her camera and the TRAs then lay into her.

That's not just assault it's also mugging isn't it? Theft by violence. What's the proper legal name for it?

Are the police taking this seriously? Are they doing anything?

Datun · 29/09/2017 09:43

The woman has written on her blog page about it. And yes the police are investigating.

Fortunately there are at least four or five videos, from different angles, which plainly show what happened.

invisiblecats · 29/09/2017 10:16

Thanks Datun, I'm relieved to hear it.

Datun · 29/09/2017 10:30

cats

It's here. Scroll down to contents and I think it's the top item.

www.skepticat.org/contents/

invisiblecats · 29/09/2017 11:52

Great blog, thanks Datun :)

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