Lord of the Flies remake with girls

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Loving this in a faceplant kind of way...

www.theguardian.com/film/2017/aug/31/lord-of-the-flies-remake-to-star-all-girl-cast

Honestly I keep trying to type a response to this but what can you say? How bloody ridiculous, it's as if the people remaking the film didn't understand the book at all.

Sigh

More sighing.

Can't help but think that bikinis will feature heavily in the costuming

Can't help but think that bikinis will feature heavily in the costuming

I'm sighing so much now I may start to hyperventilate.

I am with 'Madam' just why?

Of course there will be lots of 'savage' costumes and quite possibly slinny dipping that are INTEGRAL to the plot...

Love the comment about a new version of 'Animal Farm' being done with humans being easier to sell now

LEAVE THINGS ALONE IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THEM FFS

But, the whole point is that they're boys... Isn't it? Have I missed the point of the book completely?

Missing the point is putting it mildly, it would have to be completely re-written, so basically a different story. Did anyone see that programme a few years ago i think it was channel 4; they put two groups of children in two big brother style houses without adult supervision, boys in one and girls in the other. The boys basically went feral and ended up smashing up the house. The girls formed cliques if I remember correctly but they managed to function fairly well. This remake sounds utterly pointless.

I once split up with a BF over this book, he said that the boys were so evil to each other on the island but when I read it I thought it was normal young lads amusing themselves in the absence of adults.
But then the BF was a pompous old twat and I wanted a reason to dump him!

Maybe they will be transgirls?

Banana
How many young boys do you know that amuse themselves by torturing friends and trying to kill another boy?

Ha, maybe I didn't understand the seriousness of it, I'm known for not following films very well, but then it is a work of fiction. Wish we'd studied it in English Literature then I could ask the teacher how bad it was. I understood the seriousness of the racism in 'Roll of Thunder, Hear my Cry' because we studied it as a class.

@deadringer did you watch Eden - paradise lost recently? It was another example of it.

And yes @MadamMinacious, I'm at the "if I don't laugh, I'll cry" point with this.

Golding must be turning in his grave.
How can they remake it with girls? The whole point is it's about male violence?

My phone is being a guy so I can't see the article. I suspect Piggy/Pigette wouldn't have met a sticky end if it were all girls. I've seen these marooned/fend for yourself to shows and the men go mad and all macho whilst the women mostly get in with it.

Haven't read the book, but couldn't avoid reading a lot about it, and I thought the point of it was how boys are socialized to be little horrors at the boys only boarding schools?

Or I am misremembering and it was just a "humans are horrible" thing, but I do think it was somehow specifically about boys.

And I absolutely do fear that there'll be gratuitous nudity. Lots of it.

We aren't allowed to have women on screen without that, it appears. Wonder Woman had a lot of stuff that was dangerously close to chainmail bikini armour, quite disappointingly.

Maybe they will be transgirls?

I will make sure to make a tumblr post claiming that that is the case, whether it is true or not.
In the tradition of the tumblr post that claimed that half of the amazons in Wonder Woman are bepenised "transwomen".
(Not that in a culture where people of both sexes dress the same, you'd be able to see a difference between a no-op, no-hormones transwoman and a man, but, who cares?)

I did read a book a while ago called Be Nice which was basically Lord of the Flies but with girls. It was an interesting idea but it just fell into the usual trap of making teenage girls out to be evil, sexy little viragos who will ultimately turn on each other. A lot of the comments under that article draw the same conclusion - teenage boys might be physically violent and occasionally murderous but girls are far better at psychological bullying, which we all know is much worse, right...? Sounds like another excuse for othering and hating women, I reckon.

It can also be read as a critique of English exceptionalism or as a examination of Christianity.

As well as lots of bikinis / toplessness, I predict that two characters will develop feelings for each other and have to explore their burgeoning lesbianism in some detail...

It's about boys on an island. Who kill the only sensitive boy there.

Not to mention the Hitler/totalitarian regime allegory. It's a great book.

If it's set in an office, I'm fine with it.

This wouldn't happen with girls.
Girls are made if sugar and spice and all things nice.

YouRat

Errr ok.

I hope that bikinis and gratuitous nudity wont be a thing! They're supposed to be children aren't they?

I agree it is completely missing the point - its not that I think that young boys are necessarily innately more savage and brutal than young girls, but that (especially at that time) they were socialised to be that way by the society they grew up in. Plus, the book is a microcosym of society. Women do not hold them same level of leadership roles as men do (of course there are exceptions) and back when Golding wrote this they had even less power.

Willow
Err ok

I have 2 dd. Both very, very different. Both get huge amounts of attention from boys though. At times really stupid. Niether have been prolific daters and treated others with respect. Anyway, here's the point, I have been amazed how nasty other girls have been to them and yet, at times, how obsessive they have become. Hence it has felt to me like there is a parallel story about girls but very unlike LotF. The same potential for unwrapping some uncomfortable truths. But it would be a different story and would need a different context!