Bloody hell - women only carriages AGAIN

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41020179

And what would happen when a woman gets assaulted in a mixed carriage - why didn't you use the "ladies" carriage? The transport equivalent of wearing a short skirt and asking for it.

Let's restrict women rather than demand men act like decent human beings.

F off Labour MP

I think there should be male only carriages as they are the problem. And curfews and ban them drinking. It's male violence so let's put the responsibility on them.

I think there should be male only carriages as they are the problem. And curfews and ban them drinking. It's male violence so let's put the responsibility on them.

Logical, rational, practical. Also solves the problem.

And people's faces when you suggested it tells you exactly where women stand in society.

I would use one if they existed. I have been sexually assaulted on trains more than I care to remember.

Obviously there shouldn't be a need for them at all, but that's a whole different story isn't it.

I think there should be male only carriages as they are the problem. And curfews and ban them drinking. It's male violence so let's put the responsibility on them.

But yes, this 100%

I grew up in London so would travel on trains and tubes all the time, if there all women carriages at that time I would have used them wherever possible, the level of harassment, flashing, groping etc. has to be experienced to be believed. Even as a young looking 13 year old, unmistakably a child, I experienced it.

I still think it is a bad idea though, scared women can huddle together on a single carriage because men can't be trusted, and if they brave the mixed carriages (because they won't all fit on one carriage!) then those problematic men will assume she was asking for it. I suppose it seems like an easy and cheap solution, so much simpler than tacking the behavior of certain men, behavior that is already illegal.

vestal, my idea would be to use guards + cctv + prosecution. Having a guard makes a difference because they can call for the BTP from the train and have them waiting at the next station. CCTV would ensure that offences had sufficient evidence for prosecution. In terms of preventing crime, prosecution is hugely important - the more likely a crime is to be prosecuted the less likely it is to be committed in the first place.

This three pronged approach is broadly what has happened in and around football stadiums in recent years. It has worked to improve behaviour and societal attitudes (i.e. those of football fans themselves) are changing. I see no reason why it couldn't work for dealing with sexual assault on trains.

I think we should suggest that men need to sit a safe behaviour test (like a driving test) and until they pass it they have to sit in their own carriage and have a curfew of say, 8pm. If they pass the test then do something shitty like groping a woman on a train it should be considered an aggravating factor.

Seriously, that makes more sense to me than suggesting women are restricted and segregated from men when men are the ones that can't behave. Ffs.

Again, I think this is perhaps an area of common concern with socialism.

Our future - if we even have one - will not be one where everyone zips about in driverless electric cars. It will be one where mass transit plays a much larger role. And mass transit, the way it is now, is not good enough. Half the population feeling threatened, and many actually being assaulted.

It's shocking that this can happen. British has coped without this gender segregation for centuries - why now?

It's so depressing and just legitimises the idea that men can't control themselves.

I see where Crossrail will end up costing 15 billion (probably much more if the truth be told). And I can't help but think of a crowd at a ribbon cutting, everyone saying how wonderful it is, and women thinking, "Some shithead will grope me on there".