Women forced to lift up tops before entering football ground.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/we-were-treated-like-animals-11023143?ICID=FBmirrorr_main

Outrageous. I understand that for safety they need to search people, having been to football matches myself in the past and have had my bag searched etc.

Never have I ever been asked to lift up my top though. Surely if they really needed to do this (and I don't believe they did), it should have been done behind a screen for privacy and dignity. Not many women would be comfortable taking their top off in front of a bunch of strangers.

If you are prepared to throw away other people's human dignity in exchange for an (imagined) tiny bit of safety, you yourself deserve neither.

When women are treated as subhuman in the UK, the Islamic terrorist groups need not attack anymore, their work is done for them.

If men and boys were subject to similar treatment then I suppose it's ok. It's only bras and breasts.

However, it's terribly heavy handed to search people like this. Just vote with your feet and don't go to a match in that ground.

Not swearing doesn't mean you aren't talking bullshit.

And telling women who aren't comfortable stripping off to do so doesn't make you cool or clever it makes you a nob with an emotional iq of zero.

I'd suggest you consider your "privilege" if you honestly can't imagine why someone women aren't comfortable with being strip searched in front of men

I get stopped every single time I fly. My underwire triggers the alarm.

I have never, ever been asked to show anyone my bra.

Exactly vestal.

It's really bizarre that some people seem okay with this (not just on mn but on wider social media too). Despite there being many other more dignified ways of carrying out a search on a person.

Sadly it says a lot about how women's bodies are viewed in society.

It's only bras and breasts.

It is if you feel comfortable that way. But as from another thread running many women aren't comfortable being topless. And that's at a beach, I think most women wouldn't feel comfortable being topless in front of an audience of mostly men, many of whom will be drunk and in an environment that is prone to violence

I'd suggest you consider your "privilege" if you honestly can't imagine why someone women aren't comfortable with being strip searched in front of men

then they can get woman and a screen, can't they! job done!

what a huge storm in tea cup

Are you able to pull a screen out from behind your ear or something? Is it a magic trick?

Surely if this were really necessary we'd be seeing this practice being carried out at the bigger, premier league clubs?

Except they won't and don't because it's a clear violation of privacy and dignity and most premier league clubs have an image to uphold that does not involve the sexual harassment and humiliation of its fans.

I'd rather be searched than blown up but only behind a screen, they cannot expect you to take you top off or lift it up in front of other people.
i caused a row at the airport when I refused to take my cardigan off, I am not thin and was wearing a very skimpy vest top underneath and I refused to take it off in front of all the other passengers and expose everything. We had a right set to and I insisted it was done in private.
I'm 55 for Gods sake, I'm not taking clothes off in public.
Would they ask a muslim woman to do that, I think not.

I get stopped every single time I fly.

Me too, but it is the metal in my elbow that triggers it.

Dh takes our teen Dds to football
matches at much bigger stadiums. If they were subjected to this they wouldn't be going. Absolutely humiliating and unnecessary.

Are you able to pull a screen out from behind your ear or something? Is it a magic trick? it would be very quick and simple to set up, did anyone even ask for it?

that is a stupid thing to say, many women and children have carried out terrorist attacks, mostly I would think they have been forced or tricked, by men

Not one of the recent attacks in Europe have been carried out by a woman, let along by a child.

Good lord. We don't expect women to expose themselves when they go into shops, railway stations, theatres.

Tons of women have underwires.

It's simply not feasible.

If you are interested, all the checks were done by women, and part of the complaint is that female stewards were also checking men.

The club has said there was a raised security level

I can't see how any of the recent terror incidents could have been stopped by searching under women's tops

Children used in suicide atttacks are victims not perpetrators (and an adult is often holding the detonator).

Detection dogs are more efficient than strip searches.

Not one of the recent attacks in Europe have been carried out by a woman, let along by a child and many many many violent crimes are carried out by women and children every day in Europe

Is that right DJBaggySmalls?

Quicker, too, I imagine. As they could sniff down the line of people queueing.

If you are interested, all the checks were done by women, and part of the complaint is that female stewards were also checking

in front of men

many many violent crimes are carried out by women and children every day in Europe

Are you on glue?

many many many violent crimes are carried out by women and children every day in Europe

not just many, but many many many? wow, thats loads. lets just lock all women and children up just in case.

I'm always surprised by the lack of empathy on threads like these. Posters saying 'well I don't mind lifting up my top/showing my bra, so it's no big deal.' If you personally don't mind, good for you, but that's not a good enough reason to say that authorities should be able to insist on it. For plenty of women it's an invasion of privacy and dignity, and these things matter.

I've just seen copper on another thread. It seems they like to be goady controversial.