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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nice article

21 replies

ISaySteadyOn · 08/05/2017 17:12

I just wanted to share this as I thought it was very moving.

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TeiTetua · 08/05/2017 17:39

Agreed. And since another "feminist" site is being discussed now--Feminist Current is everything that Everyday Feminism is failing to be.

qumquat · 08/05/2017 18:38

I agree. I'm on a feminist parents group on FB though and this article got completely slammed for its TERFiness. Feminist Current was described as a misogynist site. Depressing stuff.

GuardianLions · 08/05/2017 19:37

What a brilliant article

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 08/05/2017 19:43

Fantastic article.

hazeyjane · 08/05/2017 19:47

"Real women are being phased out; the first step, persuading them to deny their own existence, is almost complete.”

Germaine predicting the future in 1999. Great article

WittgensteinsCat · 08/05/2017 21:04

Excellent article, with many very pertinent points. I’ve bookmarked the link. Thank you, ISaySteadyOn.

SomeDyke · 08/05/2017 21:40

"...this article got completely slammed for its TERFiness"

Yeps, that's a five star review as far as I'm concerned!

BMacklin · 08/05/2017 21:49

Thank you that was a great read. It's sad we need it though.

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 08/05/2017 21:49

It is a great article. Thanks for posting the link.

DJBaggySmalls · 08/05/2017 23:48

Can we make this a Nice Article thread?

ISaySteadyOn · 09/05/2017 06:16

I'd like that. And thanks to the women of FWR who introduced me to Feminist Current.

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NoDecorum · 09/05/2017 08:01

Hi, I got a message from a Facebook friend this morning saying she'd been directed to my article from here. Am the author.

Just wanted to say thank you for all the kind words, and also voice my frustration at Feminist Current being labeled a misogynist site!? When the most radical feminism is being denounced as misogynist we are truly living in the midst of an Orwellian nightmare.

As for my article being slammed for its TERFiness, I have been called TERF enough times that it sails over my head now. I know that I don't advocate for hurting or discriminating against anybody, and I believe women will win the ideological argument that spaces segregated on the basis of biological sex are still necessary. We're getting louder. We just need to keep going.

SerfnTerf · 09/05/2017 08:07

Flowers Thank you for writing it. My words aren't nearly as good as yours but everything I think is beautifully summed up in that article.

CaoNiMartacus · 09/05/2017 08:09

TERF isn't considered an insult around here, NoDecorum! Grin

Fortheloveofscience · 09/05/2017 08:18

@NoDecorum I'd like to say thanks as well, I loved your article.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 09/05/2017 08:22

Great to have you on MN, NoDecorum.

Is anyone going to post a question on the Nick Clegg webchat?

sparechange · 09/05/2017 08:24

Great article
Thank you for writing so eloquently and calmly on topics I struggle to articulate eloquently and calmly!

BigDeskBob · 09/05/2017 08:49

Good article, nodecorum.

This resonates with me: "For my mother and her friends, feminism was not an identity, a label, or an abstract concept — it was work, a verb, a doing word. It was an active attempt to improve the lives of women and girls; to liberate them from the male oppression that kept them second class citizens and prevented them from realizing their full potential"

I think this is the fundamental problem with feminism at the moment. Its a badge anyone can wear, while doing nothing to improve the lives of women and girls.

NoDecorum · 09/05/2017 11:32

Yes I agree BigDeskBob

Feminism isn't an identity. It's a political movement with clear aims and goals. I think many have lost sight of that.

StoatofDisarray · 09/05/2017 14:57

I just set up a monthly donation. Thank you so much for bringing this publication to my attention, ISay!

BlueSunGreenMoon · 09/05/2017 15:54

Fantastic article and it actually made me feel quite positive in a determined sort of way. It's very easy (for me) to get into a negative spiral when I look at the state of the some of the 'progressives' out there.

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