Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture

[Joneser]

Hi. Is it possible in theory that any kind of feminist movement could conceivably have existed in prehistoric times or in any primitive culture? I don't mean matriarchal societies, I mean a feminist movement.

("big man" in this case is utterly pertrified of wasps!)

*petrified!

Idon't know what "pertrified" is, but it sounds kinda cool!

Bollocks! I was looking forward to enjoying this thread.

I pick A.
What do I win?
"pertrified" sounds like something that happens to us primitive laydees when a manly hunter walks by;

"She pertrified at the sight of his rippling muscles."

Although big sweaty muscles have never really done it for me.
I pertrify at intelligent, kind, funny men engaging in insightful conversation.

squishy
You win a weeks internment at a Red Pill re education camp, cos us laydees clearly are doing femininity wrong!

Yeahb....DP took one look at the bastard thing and ran whimpering into the house....maybe I should tell him he's doing masculinity wrong as well!

How are wars efficient?

They are very efficient at killing off the excess population produced by patriarchy.
No one will ever be able to convince me that there is any other purpose to wars. (And those who tell me that wars are for land ... well, that proves my point does it not?)

The women get on with raising kids, getting firewood, finding the bulk of the food and water the tribe eats, and often seem to basically have the attitude that the men are just giant children who sometimes bring home meat.

That's probably it.
I suppose they don't get rid of the dead weight because, in an evolutionary dead-end, women evolved too much empathy. Couldn't just send those giant children out to the harsh world to survive on their own.

I like your definition of "pertrified" squishy!

But yeah....men who think of themselves as the big alpha man really don't swing it for me either.....
I like a decent conversation too much to give a shit how they fill out a t shirt, or whether they can fix a boiler!

(take notes red pillers...)

Being able to tell the difference between a conversation and a monologue is also a big plus in my book.

I suppose they don't get rid of the dead weight because, in an evolutionary dead-end, women evolved too much empathy. Couldn't just send those giant children out to the harsh world to survive on their own.

Would we have managed to "breed out" the whining, entitled man children and ended up with men capable of cooking/looking after kids etc without debate or discussion?

Or would we have just ended up with bunch of over bred man beasts??

Agree with you 100% on wars btw Vestal.....there is no other reason apart from the multi billion dollar arms industry.....

It still doesn't explain why, in other species that have been demonstrated to display empathy, there are so few males around.

So, on a purely hypothetical level, we don't need men for anything but their sperm, so maybe they should go and do gladiatorial competitions on an island somewhere therefore proving their genes are the best quality ones for survival, and leave women to get on with the business of running civilisation without the whiff of testosterone?

Although, I'd take a wild guess that the kind of man who copy/pastes screeds of utter bollocks that he incapable of defending probably wouldn't last long when pitted against miners and sewage workers, or in fact, anyone who has ever done a real job of work in their lives.

I wonder if any comments on this thread will be dragged off to some dingy, Cantina corner of the internet, taken out of context and used to demonstrate that "feminazis want to pit men in gladiatorial contests and think they are only useful for their sperm!"

I do feel a bit sorry for those men who have neither muscles nor intelligence, who feel like they are missing out on what the world owes them. But none of that is my fault. I wasn't put on this earth to please them.

It still doesn't explain why, in other species that have been demonstrated to display empathy, there are so few males around.

Well, elephants and such apparently did not evolve to have more empathy for males than for females, and therefore get rid of the males to keep their female children safe.

With bonobos, a certain percentage of males vanish before reaching adulthood. Perhaps they kill off each other, perhaps they emigrate to a chimpanzee tribe ... who knows? (But I'd like to see that mystery solved.)

Although, I'd take a wild guess that the kind of man who copy/pastes screeds of utter bollocks that he incapable of defending probably wouldn't last long when pitted against miners and sewage workers, or in fact, anyone who has ever done a real job of work in their lives.

Probably not, but hey, the best genes would win. Evolution!

I don't think OP would last long when pitted against the need to wash his own pants, to be fair

Love the fire with fire technique of combatting just-so evo-bollocks with just-so evo-bollocks, xeno! Weird how anything that suggests a "natural" order than doesn't put men on top just...vanishes from theory, eh?

I wonder if any comments on this thread will be dragged off to some dingy, Cantina corner of the internet, taken out of context and used to demonstrate that "feminazis want to pit men in gladiatorial contests and think they are only useful for their sperm!"

They probably will, but who cares? Those men hate women anyway. Nothing we write, even if taken out of context, could possibly make them hate us more.
... okay, perhaps hate us more, but as they already consider us subhuman and objects for their use, the respect that hate implies would be a step up.

I don't think OP would last long when pitted against the need to wash his own pants, to be fair

Eh, he would be able to survive and keep his sperm-producing capacity for a while with dirty pants.
But it would be an evolutionary dead end, which female wants to mate with such a dirty male, after all?

Oh, I wasn't suggesting we should care Vestal. Just musing!

Perhaps we are too harsh with the op, why break a butterfly on a wheel etc
When it comes to intellect he is most certainly in the butterfly/lightweight category

I hope they do take those comments back to their cave websites!

The more I see, hear and read of most men, I'm starting to think an island somewhere might be the best fucking option really.

You only have to spend 5 mins on other boards here to see all the male entitlement in the world....from the classic "woman gets all the wife/shit work, but he's a great Dad, honest" right through to sexual and domestic abuse in all it's forms.

Men rape and hurt and kill women all the fucking time then have the temerity to claim it's the fucking natural order of things.

Yeah send em all to a fucking island and let em fight it out....first on the boats??
Everyone on Red Pill......they can assert their fucking "masculinity" as much as they want with each other....we don't even want that sperm anyway...I mean, who would??

Did you perhaps help to write this piece of mansplaining shite, op?

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/menstruation-history?llid=ndmJJ&utmsource=facebook&utmmmedium=social&utmcampaign=fbpdliquids&utmmterm=9MjY

Some choice excepts here so you don't have to waste your time -

"Laura Klosterman Kidd, who is something of the go-to expert in this subject, reviewed 17 pioneer women’s diaries, as well as the inventories of various wagon trains and the letters experienced women wrote back East with advice on what to pack for the trip, and found not a single reference to any kind of period-management technology, which suggests all the girls from Little House on the Prairie were totally bleeding all over the place."

And this -

"Since this was the early 20th century, things still had to be absurdly steampunk, so a generation of women were treated to belts, buckles, straps, kitchen sinks, lengths of stovepipe, cords, fasteners, clips, and slings to hold the goddamn things steady while they were being bled on."

Thanks for the reports all, we're going to zap this one shortly coz...well.

A big thanks for all the reports - the OP may not be back.......

Noooo - don't zap it.....why??

There's been some good (and funny) replies!

Even if just one other person reads it and has a think....
It's done something helpful surely??

nooooo, please leave it! We need a laugh