Can anyone suggest why girls at 6 change their view of girls' ability to be brilliant?

[Italiangreyhound]

Can anyone suggest why girls at 6 change their view of girls' ability to be brilliant?

Just that?

What's the cause?

www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jan/26/girls-believe-brilliance-is-a-male-trait-research-into-gender-stereotypes-shows

I think the media has a role to play in this, but I can't really put my finger on why they are so hard on themselves.

That's interesting because I've always thought that SM was massive in shaping youngsters' opinions.

However, I'm sure we can all remember tiny little things that have stuck with us during childhood and maturity.

I don't think it takes much. A comment here or there will suffice.

The problem with advertising is that the take home message is often the opposite of that said out loud.

For example, 'makeup X, because I'm worth it', is code for 'buy our make up as its the only way you will ever approach even half decent looking...and even with it you will never look anything like me'.

'Girls can be engineers too!' is code for 'girls aren't usually engineers, only the odd ones who are a bit like boys are'

'Everyone wants to look their best for the ball' is code for 'start obsessing over appearance now, even though you are only 3/4 yo, and beat the rush!'

ALL advertising is negative on self-esteem (because that is how you sell stuff that people don't actually need....by creating neediness), so unless you think children aren't exposed to advertising, the deficit in their self-esteem is pretty easy to explain.

You are right of course Morphene which is why we should ideally teach our children to question the images we see in magazines, on posters etc and inject a healthy dose of cynicism. It's not easy is it.

Morphene, that does not explain why the self-esteem of white boys is usually pretty intact even after watching TV.

Advertisements make boys and men buy things they do not need, too - but I don't think they erode their self-esteem as much.

TV ads are full of sexist stereotypes and different products 'aimed' at the sexes though.

vestal the 'look your best for the ball' advert only contains girls. The boys get adverts showing them having fun outdoors playing with friends and making things.

The need created in boy adverts is the need to have more stuff.

The need created in girl adverts is to look better.

The second message has more impact on self-esteem because it attacks how you see yourself, not how many things you own.

Errol They have changed quite a bit in the last few years, there are plenty of men being treated as idiots now. (It annoys me actually why can't we all just be seen as people by the admakers?).

Though I suppose not , the admakers DO think we're all idiots otherwise they wouldn't be trying to sell such shit to us!

Those men-as-idiots ads - usually when it comes to anything domestic - are bad too. Feeds into the same tired stereotypes from the other side.

Older than 6 but two things made me itch this week.
Maths question sounding like "maria is 6.234 kgs heavier than Lisa. Megan weighs 1.342 kgs less than Lisa. The girls weigh together however much it was. What does each girl weigh?"

And in spag the brilliant example of the day was... "boys will be boys" !!!

Well the bloke in the washing machine ad CAN work it properly, he's just looked down on by his partner .

Haven't seen that (we tend to record and FF) - all part and parcel of the same thing, from the sound of it.

No ALL adolescents feel that they don't belong and, from what I can gather, most adults!