What's so great about being a woman?

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Ok, so am being slightly tongue in cheek and expecting some funny answers, but... am also wondering how many wonderful reasons I can put to teenage daughter wanting to trans to male.

My recollection is that Lass gets a hard time when she doesn't recognise that others have had shitty experiences; most of us are pleased for her that she hasn't had them!

Hiding thread now, as it's unlikely to be helping OP.

Why have you been cooking, cleaning and serving others?

Thing is, Growapear that firstly suggesting women "disguise" themselves to avoid street harassment is a disgraceful idea. It's the thinking behind the burqua. And secondly, if they can tell that you're a woman of the relevant age, men will pester you whatever you're wearing (women in the Middle East can testify to that).

It's the crass, or worse, behaviour of the men that's the problem. Why should women have to limit themselves?

Although I don't think sexual harassment has reached such a dimension that women have to disguise themselves, it definitelly is a problem and unfortunatelly law can't completelly erradicate it. Solidarity between women should be the answer. If pretty much all women find harassment unacceptable, they should step in when they see another woman being harassed.

My recollection is that Lass gets a hard time when she doesn't recognise that others have had shitty experiences; most of us are pleased for her that she hasn't had them!

I have never actually said I don't recognise that . You are putting words into my mouth.

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Do you women look forward to the time when they are invisible? No, of course not. But it can come something of a welcome shock, when you are used to making a detour to avoid, say, a building site, but you can't so you brace yourself, and nothing happens. It's definitely a benefit. No-one likes to age, but as street harassment is a pain in the arse, it's a relief when it subsides.

I think it is a myth that every time a woman walks past a building site they get wolf whistled. Isn't it ? A stereotype of builders as loutish oafs.

Yes, Datun, that's my experience too.

No, not a myth. And it's not because builders are, as you would have it, loutish oafs, but because men seem to believe that they have a God given right to comment on women's appearances. Either positively or negatively.

Smile, luv, it might never happen, eh?

So not peculiar to building sites then, but any congregation of men ? If you walked past a computer lab for example.

A myth?

Nice...

I think it is a myth that every time a woman walks past a building site they get wolf whistled. Isn't it ? A stereotype of builders as loutish oafs

I can't say it is a myth as clearly some women are reporting it happens. Where I live scaffolding grows like weeds. I doubt there is a day in my life I've not had to walk past at least one set of builders on scaffolding. Not once have I been wolf whistled at or cat called. I'm now at what FWR would consider the invisible age, but even when I wasn't, no I did not experience this. Maybe we just get a better class of builders.

The only thing I can think of was in my late 20s when if I plaited my hair when it was wet and then brushed it out when it was dry it looked like Robert Plant's in his prime and someone called out "like your hair" So what? I went to a lot of effort to make it look like that.

No, it's not every time! It's not even most of the time, probably, unless you happen to pick a rowdy lot. But it's enough times. It's enough experiences to make you check yourself. But the young intern at my work (24 years old) arrived shaken and pissed off because she was harangued three days in a row by workmen opposite where she queued for coffee until she went elsewhere.

I wasn't in the least bit surprised at her outrage. It's a three times too many. She just added it to her internal list of 'things that happen to girls'.

Building sites these days have strict policies about street harassment..I haven't heard any harassment of women passing local construction sites, or in central London. It may still go on elsewhere.

That's interesting prawn. I was going to say that I think it happens less regarding the building site situation, but I thought it was because it was becoming more socially unacceptable.

Let's not forget there are more women working in construction nowadays too.

Part of my work involves being in groups of women (mainly young women) in a building mainly inhabited by men (maninly young men). It is not unusual for young men to knock on internal windows and peer in and / or make whooping noises outside. On one occasion there was a rustle at the door and some paper appeared. I collected it and it was photocopied soft porn. Hubba, hubba, hubba .

Yet. That's so depressing. It's not even the possible intimidation. It's the sheer and utter wankiness.

What on earth goes through these lads' heads? It's the same thing as the 'dick pic' revolution. 'Oh a picture of your erect penis, I might faint with lust', said no woman ever.

I wonder whether it is;

• a genuine conviction that a horde of young women will exit the room, track them down and have their wicked ways with them (stupidity and delusion)
• a desire to show masculinity to their peers by expressing lust towards women (sexism and homophobia)
• a covert way of signifying that this is men's space and we are only welcome on their terms (sexism and misogyny).

I wish Id been born a man. No one wants a single woman in her late thirties. She is considered past her best whereas a man is seasoned.

Also everything in this:

Queen

I've never seen that video before. Good on him.

Great video.
Shame about the comments. Especially from Athena. She's been both a man and a woman and sexism is untrue apparently

Can't think of any best bits of being a woman..only things I have enjoyed that are sex specific were being pregnant and giving birth tbh..and not all women can do that anyway so its definitely not an essential part of being a woman or anything.

I would focus more on the downsides of transition tbh. Endless medical interventions and so on.