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To think that women should not be referred to as menstruators and pregnant people?

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FRETGNIKCUF · 04/09/2016 07:34

This is a thread about the impact trans activism is having on women. This is the beginning.

Don't read on if you're going to whine about another trans thread.



Julian Vigo (@lubelleludotcom on Twitter) wrote the following.

There is a war on women, folks. The transgender lobby has gone down the rabbit hole by refusing to acknowledge that women's lives and bodies not only matter, but that they are real. Instead women's bodies have become the simulacra in an extended theatre of male entitlement (to be women while telling women to STFU) or they are rendered an extension of male subjectivity such that we now see hairy transmen's female bodies breastfeeding, the only form of female body hair that would ever be allowed in Time magazine.

And now for the latest: we are being called "menstruators" by the same right-wing discourse which seeks to remove the mention of woman from women's healthcare across the USA (ie. now many providers have been pressured to remove the term woman and write instead "pregnant person.") It is as if the last 100 years of women's rights had never occured.

The ironies are multiple. Here you have a group which claims its own marginalisation while working steadily to marginalise an already marginalised group, women. Then you have a group of female people who by virtue of the current transgender identity doxa necessitates "gender dysphoria," yet paradoxically adheres to—and even embraces—the real and symbolic thrust of much of what the female body actually is and produces, a complete opposition to gender dysphoria. Therein lies the greatest contradiction which, not surprisingly, once again holds women hostage: woman is symbolic for those who emulate her, woman is only acceptable inasmuch as she recognises males as females, and women are now relegated to "non-males" by political parties, as "pregnant humans" and "menstruators" by females who reject their bodies yet who hold out for the double-bind of gender in this theatre of cruelty where only a [sic] "man" can truly understood pregnancy, breastfeeding, and motherhood.

The only parallel I can think of is if the KKK were to insist that the Black Panthers stop calling themselves "black", demand that their white hoods be viewed as black, assert that only white people know what it is like to experience life as a black person, and then turn around and maintain that black people are just a group of entitled, bio-essentialist racists.

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/09/2016 12:04

Katey I found that video a bit confused to be honest. She seemed to be mixing biological sex with cultural gender at several points.

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Katexxy · 10/09/2016 12:27

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CoteDAzur · 10/09/2016 16:52

Thank you for your informative posts, Kate.

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CoteDAzur · 10/09/2016 16:56

I don't understand why intersex people are raised as a rebuttal to "Humans are a sexually dimorphic species", though. Intersex is a disorder. It is not a third sex.

It's like answering "Humans are a bipedal species" with "But what about people born with just one foot".

It makes no sense.

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/09/2016 23:46

I hope it helped you understand the intersex issues...

Thanks Katy. It did. Intersex doesn't get much discussion.

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