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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Having sex with transwomen is so much better than with those frigid women

159 replies

AskBasil · 02/08/2016 11:43

transsingleblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/make-love-with-transgender-females/ Have a look at this. Look how much contempt for real women there is, on this site.

Women have horrible vaginas and we're frigid. Luckily there's transwomen who are much better, but don't worry guys, they're really real women, so you won't be gay if you fuck them.

OP posts:
Xenophile · 02/08/2016 11:46

You know when you're walking in mountains, and you think you've got to the peak, only to get there and find there's more to go and it's worse?

This is how I feel about every peak trans moment

NeedACleverNN · 02/08/2016 11:47

How lovely.

OurBlanche · 02/08/2016 11:47

I am not even going to look... Xenophile has probably captured its essence !

Unicornsarelovely · 02/08/2016 11:55

It's like the revolting fires rating prostitutes really isn't it. Horribly Misogynistic quite apart from the trans points.

dizzyfeck · 02/08/2016 12:06

Fetish article that makes all women, trans included, into an object of men's sexual pleasure. Disgusting article. Makes me want to vomit.

MrsMushrooms · 02/08/2016 12:10

Although the article is obviously disgusting, your use of the term 'real women' is quite unfair. I don't think trans-exclusionary feminism is very helpful to anybody at all!

grimbletart · 02/08/2016 12:11

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Xenophile · 02/08/2016 12:13

MrsM.. I fear the author of that article has self excluded from feminism. And not just because they were born a man.

RufusTheReindeer · 02/08/2016 12:15

oh good lord

What a complete load of bollocks

(I need some good non genital related words Hmm)

MorrisZapp · 02/08/2016 12:15

Peak peak peak! Dons knapsack, grabs crampon, eats mintcake.

Xenophile · 02/08/2016 12:19

IKR Morris, it's like scaling the entire Alpine ranges.

RufusTheReindeer · 02/08/2016 12:19

Dont get excited morris Grin

I am fairly convinced that there will be more "peak" to come

Save some of the mint cake

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 02/08/2016 12:20

That's a hell of an article.
Manages to insult transwomen, born women, gay men, bisexual men and straight men in a few short paragraphs.

FreshwaterSelkie · 02/08/2016 12:24

I'm ok with my feminism excluding anyone who is openly contemptuous of women, such as the author of this article, and anyone who thinks it's saying something worth saying.

Just horrid on every level. Unpleasant, delusional, misogynist and not even well written.

FreshwaterSelkie · 02/08/2016 12:29

Oops, should say "this article was just horrid on every level".

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 02/08/2016 12:29

I also have a sneaking suspicion that the author hasn't actually slept with many women at all, trans or otherwise.
The whole article screams bad trans Mills and Boon

KittensandKnitting · 02/08/2016 12:36

im speechless...

GladAllOver · 02/08/2016 12:36

trans-exclusionary feminism

WTF does that mean? Why do people have to make up all these weird definitions instead of saying what they mean?

AskBasil · 02/08/2016 12:40

I don't think the use of the term real women is unfair Mrs M, so we'll have to disagree.

I don't think transwomen are real women. That doesn't mean I want them persecuted, or don't believe that they are entitled to dignity, respect and human rights. It's just that I don't believe they are women in the sense that someone who has experienced girlhood and the biological reality of womanhood, is a woman.

I'm done bending over backwards to avoid using language that might upset or anger transwomen. I don't go out of my way to do so, obviously, but I won't hedge my language anymore, to spare the feelings of biological XY people from the class which oppresses my class.. I'm prepared to be civil, polite, even kind by using her when I mean him - but I will not describe real women as cis and not pretend that people who are XY with male socialisation, are women. And if we need a term to differentiate women from transwomen, then real seems to me to capture it, though I'm happy to accept a less upsetting term as long as it's not at the expense of reality.

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ReaWithson · 02/08/2016 12:41

transgender woman are women, and in many ways they are probably the only women around. A transgender woman, due to her unique position of being born in the wrong body, understands the needs and desires of men in ways that are impossible for an average cis-woman

transsingleblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/why-get-a-transgender-girlfriend/

ReaWithson · 02/08/2016 12:43

Apparently women are not real women - transwomen are Confused

NeedACleverNN · 02/08/2016 12:47

Rea

That is ridiculous. It's a way for homophobic men to indulge their forbidden fantasies and still be allowed amongst his friends cos "it's a woman really init"

What a ridiculous thing for them to say

AndYourBirdCanSing · 02/08/2016 12:48

Fucking hell.

I agree- I wouldn't call transwomen 'real' women. They're not Confused

lionheart · 02/08/2016 12:49

I thought the Op was being facetious with the use of that term.

Claraoswald36 · 02/08/2016 12:53

That's an immensely smug and stupid article written by a bit of a twit.
the superior tone is just laughable.
You know what trans world - I don't think I'm superior to you lot because I am comfortable with my birth gender so don't be lording it over me because you arnt.