Having sex with transwomen is so much better than with those frigid women

[AskBasil]

transsingleblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/make-love-with-transgender-females/ Have a look at this. Look how much contempt for real women there is, on this site.

Women have horrible vaginas and we're frigid. Luckily there's transwomen who are much better, but don't worry guys, they're really real women, so you won't be gay if you fuck them.

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I don't think that's true, I have seen some transwomen that don't do the whole piles of makeup and hair extension thing. Miranda Yardley is a good example.

I know this is a (mainly) female space but I hope you don't mind a male comment.

I think this article is pretty awful, and insulting to everybody, but absolutely irrelevant in the greater scheme of things. Nothing against transsexuals but I think you are either sexually attracted to them or you aren't and no amount of rhapsodising about newly-minted vaginas is going to change that.

It seems to me to be a misogynistic article, but a sort of fringe misogyny (with an agenda) that will have no effect on anyones' real life relationship or sexuality. Nobody will think any less of women or change their sexual preferences after reading it. It's just someone from the extreme outpost of the internet writing things that are totally irrelevant to most of us.

Hope that wasn't too intrusive and I've not said anything offensive.

From the article:

"[Having sex with a transwoman] is, however, different from homosexual sex as you are having sex with a woman."
Yet
"It helps if you are bisexual"

Oooh I wonder why that is!

Anyway this article means good news for us in the long run. With so many transwomen willing to provide men with the ultimate parody of being a woman: submissive, vain, in possession of both a tight vagina and a handbag replete with lipstick and other useless shit, us "cis" women will be free to actually be ourselves and not have to continue to "perform femininity".

I think you are right Twibble It was too silly and badly written to take seriously.

18 months ago I was have brushed off many things that I have read as being silly and will not be taken seriously, a man with a beard who dresses in skirts and high heels claiming to be a women and taken seriously, a man who wears a wig and dress running as the female candidate for a student union rep position, literature being changed to people who have babies so not to offend, women having to argue their reasoning as to why they want women only spaces

These attitudes are being pushed by men not women yet it is women who it will impact not men

Nothing against transsexuals but I think you are either sexually attracted to them or you aren't and no amount of rhapsodising about newly-minted vaginas is going to change that. It seems to me to be a misogynistic article, but a sort of fringe misogyny (with an agenda) that will have no effect on anyones' real life relationship or sexuality. Nobody will think any less of women or change their sexual preferences after reading it. It's just someone from the extreme outpost of the internet writing things that are totally irrelevant to most of us

Well, I doubt anyone here gives a shit whether someone "changes their sexuality" as a result of reading that article and, strangely enough, I don't think many are reacting to this article because they are feeling threatened and worried that they may be abandoned in favour of transwomen.

But it's interesting you see it as "fringe" misogyny and irrelevant to most of us - I think Buffy rather hit the nail on the head in calling it pure, unadulterated misogyny. The blogger (who has 20,000 followers on Facebook and another 23,000 on twitter) unashamedly promotes the idea that the reality of women's behaviour and bodies isn't all that pleasant when you think about it, which is why we need all these sanitising products and social rules to mask the fact. Do you think that attitude is limited to rare extremists?

Of course, by discussing it we are either being silly and making much ado about nothing, or we're transphobic...

x post with the two above!

"But it's interesting you see it as "fringe" misogyny and irrelevant to most of us"

I don't think Twibble was saying it was "fringe" in order to say it's irrelevant or to imply we're making "much ado about nothing" but just to say it sounds as ridiculous to him as a man as it does to us.

It's just someone from the extreme outpost of the internet writing things that are totally irrelevant to most of us

Nah - I generally have my phone and a card wallet (I went searching for a small purse the other day, but was unable to find anything smaller than a filofax - so it's card wallet with a folded 20 in shoved in the middle). If I'm travelling light and in the UK, it's just phone (apple pay.. works in BP/M&S and Pret. What more do I need ;) ) I stopped carrying stamps years ago.

What he's missing from his bag list is squashed sweets/chewing gum (in wrapper), wet wipes, spare nappy/pants and a couple of toy cars, because the only time I'm carrying a bag is when I'm out with the kids so carrying stuff to amuse them.

Yes, the reason I posted it was to show how much of the trans take on women, is that we are basically disgusting sub-humans. Pure traditional misogyny, with a modern twist.

Men have to understand that cis dating has reached its end

FFS. FO.

Anyway this article means good news for us in the long run. With so many transwomen willing to provide men with the ultimate parody of being a woman: submissive, vain, in possession of both a tight vagina and a handbag replete with lipstick and other useless shit, us "cis" women will be free to actually be ourselves and not have to continue to "perform femininity".

That would be nice. Not sure it will happen, though, unless the transwomen manage to successfully convince men that they can give them sons.
The main goal of patriarchy has always been to use women for breeding. In societies were male homosexuality was well accepted, men were still expected to marry a woman, and father sons, and women were still oppressed.

But perhaps, since having children is not so visibly tied to being cared for in old age anymore, men will actually take to fucking transwomen, actual women will be free to be ourselves, and population will be dramatically reduced.

There has always been a small group of men who are primarily attracted to transwomen, and another small group who are so hypersexualised that anyone will do. That will never change. The fact remains that straight men (and lesbian women) like women ie people with vaginas , while gay men and straight women like men ie people with penises. Bisexual people tend to like both, not a mismash or people with surgically constructed imitations , which are not that similar, due to the limitations of surgical knowledge.
That is a matter of biology. It can't be overcome by reasoning, especially such inaccurate arguments such as this.

I've never heard of a straight man being called transphobic for not wanting to have sex with a trans woman. Or a gay man for not being interested in trans men. Has anyone? Funny how it's apparently only females who are subjected to the cotton ceiling bollox.

A gay man described asking him if he would perform cunnilingus on a transman as a deeply homophobic suggestion. This was shortly after he had told lesbians that not wanting to have sex with transwomen was transphobic.

So, gay man + cunnilingus = homophobia but lesbian refusing to perform fellatio = transphobia.

It was just super to have Owen Jones repeatedly clear that up for women.

noeffing - yes, I've no doubt that's right and that these 'arguments' won't change people's sexual preferences or change people's (by which we mean men's) view of women... the problem is it highlights and perpetuates some widely-held prejudices about what it means to be a 'proper' woman and why the vast majority women are never really good enough for men:

the vast majority of cis-women do not act feminine, care little about their appearance, and do not know how to respond to male affection appropriately

Men cannot be blamed for what is essentially the caustic nature of cis-women

Most cis-women have a certain frigidity to them that does not allow them to totally open up during the lovemaking

etc. etc. etc.

reawilson I don't agree that the 'vast majority' of women are never 'really good enough' for men. I think thats a bit of an exaggeration, really. I can't say it's anything I've ever felt, or noticed amongst other women that I know.

Sorry rea misspelt your user name.

I agree with noeffing re the 'vast majority' of women are never 'really good enough' for men.

The writer of this article is an illiterate idiot. The internet is full of illiterate idiots. If the article had been as moronic but was about race it would be dismissed as the offensive utterances of a deeply unpleasant person who may well have an Internet following but no more than that.

So men are picked apart for their appearances, choices and behaviour as much as men?

I don't agree that if a blogger had been publishing material as deeply racist as it is misogynist that it would be met with a 'meh - who cares?' by the targets of its racism.

So women are picked apart as much as men that meant to ask.