Corbyn - "I'm in favour of decriminalising the sex industry"

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www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/04/jeremy-corbyn-decriminalise-sex-industry-prostitution?CMP=share_btn_tw

Not a huge shock but still troubling to see him say it.

Odd; if it's just a job, why. Shouldn't an alternative career be suggested without that being violence?

Well quite, Barefoot, no one would suggest that someone asking if a nurse or plumber had thought of changing careers was committing an act of violence, would they?

Absolutely what Lurcio and Whenever said! applause. And also, what Julie Bindel said (love that woman).

If it's a job like any other, would you put it on your CV? No? Why not? The Belle du Jours don't put it on their CVs because they know it doesn't belong there, and the vast majority of prostitutes don't put it there because they don't get to lead the kind of lives in which CVs feature, as Whenever describes above.

Because it's not a job like any other, and we all know it. And it's time the blame for that was taken away from the women doing the job and attached firmly to where it belongs, to the men who pay them. That's what "civilised" looks like, Jeremy.

Well - all your comments have convinced me that I was wrong to agree that it should be decriminalised.

Thanks, Sea.

Legalization =!= decriminalization.

Good morning. So, having given this more thought, this is clearly a complex issue which divides society, women and feminists. What do you think of the following idea:

Decriminalise the practice of two or more women working in the same building; introduce the Nordic model for street prostitution; along with an anti-prostitution/violence campaign aimed at men?

This would enable women who wanted to work in numbers for safety to do so, whilst moving the burden of criminal responsibility onto men.

No. The reasons why not have already been set out.

quote from article"In 2014, Northern Ireland became the first part of the UK to impose a ban on paying for sex."

And since then, 1 client and 3 prostitutes have been arrested. (Selling sex is still illegal under the Nordic model if prostitutes work together).

www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/first-arrest-made-under-new-ni-offence-of-paying-for-sex-34173495.html

HomerIliad- have you read the thread?

"the English Collective of Prostitutes, which campaigns for decriminalisation, voiced its support for Mr Corbyn's comments."

from a similar article from the BBC:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35724897

The Guardian article conveniently misses this out (agenda much?), but this is worth mentioning. I think it's reasonable to say that the prostitutes themselves will know better on the matter than any politician.

Back again, giasselo?

What the article said was

"Three females were also arrested and interviewed for keeping a brothel."

You said "selling sex is still illegal under the Nordic model if prostitutes work together" . My understanding of the Nordic model is selling sex is not illegal but buying it is so it is irrelevant whether or not it happens in a brothel.

Selling and buying sex in the UK is not illegal-it is most of the circumstances which facilitate which are illegal; buying it in N . Ireland is. Brothels are illegal anywhere in the UK.

You will note I am using the word "brothel" as opposed to say a house "where prostitutes work together".

"Brothel" is quicker to type and I think more accurate.

The point is the prostitutes would not have been arrested at all if the model had been decriminalisation.

Are you happy with prostitutes being arrested for "running a brothel" just because there were 2 or more of them in a premise?

Decriminalisation is the only model where prostitutes do not face any prostitution-related charges.

And again?

It's rich when feminists pretend to care about the welfare of sexworkers and advocate for the Nordic model (where brothels are still illegal and sexworkers still commit a crime for working in them), and then go all quiet when they are arrested.

Anyone want odds on Melissa Farley being mentioned in the next 3 posts?

Just a question if I may- do you think sexworkers should be arrested for "running a brothel" if there are 2+ of them in the same premise?

Just a question if I may- do you think sexworkers should be arrested for "running a brothel" if there are 2+ of them in the same premise?

Yes I do.

so you want them all to work alone then.

I love the way brothels are promoted as some sort of cuddly cottage industry workers' collective as the solution to everything that is wrong with the "sex industry".

They aren't. I don't often say "rtft" as it strikes me as lazy and unnecessarily aggressive - but I'll make an exception here. The reasons why legal brothels do not solve anything have been covered.

Just a question if I may- do you think sexworkers should be arrested for "running a brothel" if there are 2+ of them in the same premise?

Yes, they should be. Obviously once they have been arrested then the situation can be analysed, but why should women who choose to run a brothel just get off with it, they aren't all victims although I accept the majority probably are.

But if they choose to work together for safety or even just company why should they be penalised criminally?

Is there any other job where it's legal for someone to do their job as long as they are all alone with noone else present except their client, but if they have any colleagues with them they are all automatically committing a crime?

"but why should women who choose to run a brothel just get off with it"

Well by the same logic why should women who sell sex at all get off with it? Why not just advocate for full criminalisation?

Prostitution is just a job is it? Exactly like any other?