The "daughter" who murdered her father who had MS

[AskBasil]

Is actually his son.

fancy sharing a cell with this bloke?

This is really serious, violent crime figures are going to be totally distorted as more and more men claim they are women and statisticians meekly record them as such.

[LyndaNotLinda]

I feel really deceived by the BBC on this. When I first saw that photo, it didn't say anything about the fact that he is actually a bloke.

And nothing on the news all day yesterday.

Back of an envelope working out of MTT on women's stats - I've used sexual offences as an example:

2013 - there were 85.5k men in prison and 3.9k women. Roughly 165 of those men are inside for sexual offences while there are only 3 women. Three. All you need is 3 MTT to be convicted of sexual offences and recorded as women and you've doubled the numbers overnight.

Scary.

[QueenLaBeefah]

The BBC definitely have an agenda. Similarly the Guardian and Buzz Feed.

[PalmerViolet]

DH was appalled when he saw the picture of the perpetrator. He'd heard all about it from R4 all day, and he feels they have lied about the whole thing.

[HeyNonnyMaybe]

The transsexual element was definitely mentioned clearly on R4 yesterday.

[PalmerViolet]

Interesting. He didn't hear it.

[Narp]

What a load of bollocks

[Helmetbymidnight]

It wasn't on radio 2 news.

[LyndaNotLinda]

Really HeyNonny? Because I listened to R4 pretty much all day long and I didn't hear it mentioned at all. Which is why I was so shocked when I saw a photo of Claire Darbyshire today

[Hennifer]

Oh but he's part of a minority so that means we have to call him she.

FFS

I wonder what the deletion rate will be on this thread.

[BeyondBootcampsAgain]

He.

[msrisotto]

I wonder what the deletion rate will be on this thread. i'd say high

[scallopsrgreat]

For those of you saying it that transwomen committing crimes and being recorded under women isn't going to make a dent, it doesn't rightly matter. It is just plain inaccurate. And unless you feel it's fair that men's crimes are credited to women I'm not sure why you'd want them recorded as such.

Plus the male:female ratio for murder is not the only stat. At the moment only 5% of the prison population is female. And only a small fraction of that is violent. These types of crimes will make a dent in those figures. If you look at intimate partner murders for example: t.co/FMddPKXmcl even one extra murder attributed to women signifies about a 2.5% increase.

[BeyondBootcampsAgain]

(Just upping the deletions, not correcting anyone!)

[lunar1]

If women's violent crime goes up enough, then they could just open unisex prisons. After all we are getting just as violent. Bloody scary that being PC is so much more important than women being safe from someone proved to be violent with the strength advantage as a man.

It's nothing new though. I used to volunteer at a women's refuge over 10 years ago. They admitted a trans woman. I can't say on how many levels that was inappropriate, but I stopped volunteering very shortly after.

[HairyLittleCarrot]

To be fair to MNHQ their deletion policy seems to be evolving in practice. I'm guessing they are reading the threads and are trying to minimise the censorship. There's no way they could be immune to the depth of frustration we feel, nor the damaging impact of enforcing speech codes that perpetuate this nonsense.
I understand very well that they tread a fine line. But I suspect they understand and are stretching their misgendering policy as thin as they can manage.

[BeyondBootcampsAgain]

I'd love to know (not that its possible at all) what the general mnhq-ers views are on this. Are they being told from above to not delete and hating every post, learning and coming around slowly along with many of the posters, or great big terfy activists outside of work who are actually alongside us?

[HermioneWeasley]

Here's how Claire Darbyshire's sexual crime was reported 3 years ago.

Note the lack of the words "man" "male" or "penis" but instead we are told about a woman "soiling underwear". WTAF?

www.barkinganddagenhampost.co.uk/news/crime-court/five_year_restraining_order_placed_on_dagenham_woman_who_soiled_friend_s_knickers_1_2259110

[VestalVirgin]

I now feel slightly suspicious that the alleged chainsaw murderer (female) who allegedly murdered her boyfriend was in fact a bloke, too.

Not only does this make female crime rates seem so much higher, it also is yet another means of invisibling male violence.

(Though I have to say, there seems to be some evolution - today I spotted a man who murdered his family being called a "massacre", not, as usual a "tragedy" ... though maybe he also murdered adult male relatives and that's why.)

[Canyouforgiveher]

there is a transwoman in prison here in Massachusetts for killing his wife. He murdered her while still a man, went to male prison. Started the process of transgendering then and sued the state to pay for his medical treatment. Whatever the wrongs or rights of that, it is absolutely wrong to say "she is in prison for murdering her wife" - making it sound that it happened to a gay married couple when in fact it was a husband who murdered his wife. Facts matter.

[BeyondBootcampsAgain]

Soiled? Made dirty? Pooed in?

Who am i kidding, I'd put money on "had a wank in". All those woman-sperms. I wonder if every woman sperm carries an x chromosome...?

[HermioneWeasley]

canyou similarly the highest paid female CEO in America is actually a TW. And was a man when she got the job. Not exactly a victory for women and equal pay.

[DrSeussRevived]

"When did The Guardian become so disingenuous?"

Feels like aeons ago.

[Hennifer]

From the Dagenham rag:

'Defending herself in court, Darbyshire said: “Since it has happened I have regretted it. I have been worrying about it every day and since the police got involved I have been really scared.

“I certainly wouldn’t do anything like this again because it has so worried me.” '

This isn't a remorseful person. Since 'it happened' is distancing - s/he didn't do it, it just happened. 'I have regretted it' - not I regret it, but I have regretted it - maybe just momentarily.
And s/he's been really scared and worried about the police being involved. FFS

And not doing it again because it 'made her worried'

Jeesus. Where is the concern for the person s/he did it to? it's all completely, utterly self centred wank.

[BeyondBootcampsAgain]

[OhShutUpThomas]

That's frightening Hennifer.

No remorse. No regret. Just worry for themselves. They wouldn't do it again because of how it affected THEM. Not because it was an awful thing to do and they regret taking a life.

Scary.