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A feminist view on the hack

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PuntasticUsername · 19/08/2015 13:14

I was just reading the fb comments (yes I know, someday I'll learn) below the ITV News article about the hack and the swatting shite, which was fronted by a photo of MNJustine.

There was precisely one sympathetic remark - from a woman. Otherwise, men are suggesting that getting hacked is our own fault for being a website that is all about slagging off men; women say we're all boring and up ourselves anyway ("airy fairy women with personality disorders"); and most-liked of all is a man's comment saying "Christ, [Justine] looks just like how I'd imagine the typical wet blanket mumsnet user to look".

People really do hate women for having the nerve to get together and have opinions about things, don't they?

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lastuseraccount123 · 19/08/2015 16:05

one thing I'm not clear on: was this attack by an MRA? do we know?

xennara · 19/08/2015 16:06

www.facebook.com/itvnews/posts/10153184162927672

Why not post a link to the comments? Could it be because mumsnet is being criticised by both men AND women??

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Takver · 19/08/2015 16:13

More cheerfully, the BTL comments on the Guardian (not usually a bastion of feminism) were much more positive, with most saying the perpetrator is a pillock wasting police time and recklessly endangering people.

So for example - no idea of sex of poster (unless he's genuinely a penguin called Eric)
"Terrifying children in their homes late at night are the tactics employed by those who have no argument against the facts. It's a cruel and despicable act and should be abhorred by all."

Though this one did make me smile - in answer to the question 'what is Mumsnet':
"It's essentially the guardian comments section, but with pointless acronyms."

Lioninthesun · 19/08/2015 16:20

If you RTT Xennara you'd see that is in fact the point of this thread. Vile people being vile about a vile attack on a network of mothers. With 7.7mil users it's no surprise that some members are members, but blanketing all women being supported and finding the site of use as a new mum etc is pretty banal. Especially in light of the swatting etc - would they like it if FB was hacked and this happened to them? We "deserve it" because one or two people on here don't like men?

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OddBoots · 19/08/2015 16:21

What do self proclaimed non-feminists believe in xennara?

NoTechnologicalBreakdown · 19/08/2015 16:21

Gosh. Two pages and already half of the content is calling us all names under the sun.

I'm not the most prolific poster but I've been on here for a while now. Where is all this vile manhating shit I've posted? And read, and enjoyed, and been educated by, from others? My dh and ds would no doubt like to know if I'm abusing men myself or habitually condoning the same...

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BertrandRussell · 19/08/2015 16:22

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What a great plan! Whoever the attacker was let's just label him/her/them an "MRA"! Then we can use that to silence anyone who dares mention a man's issue like prostate cancer, MGM or the fact most homeless/completed suicides/prisoners are male!"

What a very strange reaction! I would have expected you to say "Yes, he probably was one of those complete loons I disassociate myself from entirely. Now can we discuss these issues I feel are very important?"

spanisharmada · 19/08/2015 16:23

xennara that's the same as OP posted so I'm not sure what your point is?
Of course men and women can both express an illinformed dislike of something... so??

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Treats · 19/08/2015 16:23

Xennara - or could it be because not everybody has a facebook account and wouldn't be able to access a link to them?

I find it a bit weird when people criticise 'Mumsnet' - fair enough to take issue with individual posters or a group of comments. Or to dislike the way the site is run or - say - the advertising or moderating policies. But what do you dislike when you don't like 'Mumsnet'?

There can be a bit of a hive mind occasionally on some topics, but there's such a diversity of topics and opinions. The people who come on to post about their dogs and seek advice on their washing problems must be astonished to find that they're "absolutely vile" and spouting "pretentious crap".

I think you should be a bit more precise about what's bothering you.

xennara · 19/08/2015 16:24

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Twunk · 19/08/2015 16:25

I hate both my sons and my DH. and my DF and my DB. And all my male friends. Yup, hate them all. Hmm

Lioninthesun · 19/08/2015 16:25

Are you on glue Xennara
Calm down dear. We are not attacking you, men or doing anything other than discussing a comments section on a few websites... It's NOT PERSONAL!

NoTechnologicalBreakdown · 19/08/2015 16:25

"My dh and ds would no doubt like to know if I'm abusing men myself o"

You have a son?? Do you hate him? Do you see him as your "oppressor" or a "potential rapist"??

Yes, no, and no. Next?

BertrandRussell · 19/08/2015 16:26

Oh! Because we never discuss (for example) infant circumcision on here? No, never!

Are you an MRA, by the way, xennara?

Lioninthesun · 19/08/2015 16:29

Clearly something a bit wrong with them whoever they are. Focusing on a thread from 8 years ago and assuming all of us (I assume because we are reading and posting on a thread in 'Feminism') must all hate men Hmm and completely ignoring the thousands of men on here who get advice as well and many of whom stay and enjoy MN just as much as the women!

Treats · 19/08/2015 16:30

Feel free to start a thread about prostate cancer, MGM or the fact most homeless/completed suicides/prisoners are male if that's what you want to do.

SolidGoldBrass · 19/08/2015 16:30

What makes me happy about this is how frightened those inadequate men are. Because it's too late, you inadequate little tosspots. Enough of the world's population already finds you ludicrous rather than frightening. We know that you live sad, empty, unfulfilled lives with only your personalities to use as contraception. We know that everything you touch goes wrong and your only solace is to huddle together online with the rest of the bleating losers equally incapable of making any real friends. We know, most of all, that when you're not trying to build a woman-destroying bomb out of wankerchiefs and gaffer tape, you can't stop sneaking back online to google penis-enlargers in secret, and that you wake at night in terror that you've forgotten to delete your browsing history and someone's hacked it and sent it to all your workmates and your mum.

Treats · 19/08/2015 16:31

(What IS MGM, by the way?)

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 19/08/2015 16:31

I think to a certain type of person, every single individual who posts on MN is rolled up into a great lump identified as "that bitch" and has the face of the girl who didn't want to go to the school disco with him in 1981.