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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why can 'practical feminism' not be a sub-board? Or thread?

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 15:28

I've been doing some marathon catch-up reading and I know there is a line of argument that theory and practice are indivisible etc but it seems to me that such a section would answer a different demand.

I'm sure there is loads of stuff that has been said that I haven't read though.

Can some of you just answer that point for me? Thanks Smile

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 17:44

Not all the feminists on MN are FWRers.

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 17:46

And not everyone has difficulty adapting a message for different audiences, surely? It'd be easier if the audiences were separate wouldn't it?

Interesting that there's a water theme Smile If it was a sticky it would stop it sliding.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 04/11/2014 17:53

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 17:54

Grassroots feminism w/o a theoretical underpinning is common. I'm sure a mish mash would happen.

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PetulaGordino · 04/11/2014 17:58

i don't know. i think it's a good idea and i hope it would be welcomed, but there is a part of me that feels like it is segregation. like regulars can't be trusted to play nicely, and that newer people are too green play with the big girls. i know that's probably silly. or maybe that's how people really feel the situation is?

ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 17:58
Grin

Is there a worry that it would be 'work'?

People do just ask for links and a reading list a lot (in main board threads). That only has to be done once. And Blis I think we're at cross-purposes in the kind of questions we're imagining Smile

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 04/11/2014 18:01

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:02

Women really do say 'I never thought I was a feminist, but recently.....' IME they ask questions (and probably imagine capital F feminism to be one minolithic thing) but they aren't questions anyone would struggle to keep complex jargon out of the answers too, I think.

But that's just one subset.

I hope more people happen along to comment. I'd love to know how many people would be interested.

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:03

Do you read the relationships board much Buffy?

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LemonDrizzleTwunt · 04/11/2014 18:03

The beauty of there being list of you learned folk though is that us rookies will have plenty of schools of thought and advice to choose from. It's about sharing knowledge, rather than picking a teacher. At least I hope so!

PetulaGordino · 04/11/2014 18:04

yes i've probably said enough now

Blistory · 04/11/2014 18:04

Not all the feminists on MN are FWRers

I agree - I was one of them for a number of years but I didn't consider myself to be a beginner or to lack in understanding so I wouldn't have posted on such a thread. But it was only by getting involved in discussions on FWR or reading them that I expanded my knowledge. It just seems kind of patronising to point people to a different section.

Do you think it would be used ? I think maybe a sticky would work well to provide links to some varied reading, explanation of terminology that those who are unfamiliar with feminism could start with.

To be honest, from what I've read on the various threads is that the problem for some is feeling that it's all a bit too earnest and heavy on the theory but for the majority, it's the aggressive attitude.

Long way to say I'm up for a sticky but not a separate section. Although I do think that MNHQ have always been aware of the problems the FWR boards have and seemed quite amenable last time to various ideas. Maybe worth canvassing what options would be on the table ?

ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:06

i think it's a good idea and i hope it would be welcomed, but there is a part of me that feels like it is segregation. like regulars can't be trusted to play nicely, and that newer people are too green play with the big girls. i know that's probably silly. or maybe that's how people really feel the situation is?

No Petula it isn't like that.

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:10

Maybe a thread in site stuff?

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Blistory · 04/11/2014 18:14

Yes, I think so.

I'll try not to remember the carnage that was caused with the last request in Site Stuff to split the FWR boards but I'm sure MNHQ have recovered by now. Grin

YonicScrewdriver · 04/11/2014 18:14

I am not sure a thread in site stuff will go well; I think it will end up being fairly critical of FWR.

But start one and prove me wrong - I'd be thrilled if that happened!

YonicScrewdriver · 04/11/2014 18:15

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:15

If you haven't seen relationships Buffy have a look. There a few 'big girls' there. It rubs along ok.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 04/11/2014 18:15

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:16

Was it carnage?

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:18

Not you Buffy - the Site Stuff thread Grin

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:19

Well we could do critical pedagogy um, using dialogic reflection

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 04/11/2014 18:19

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:22

Can't say I wasn't warned Smile

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/2226932-A-subforum-or-sticky-thread-for-FWR

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ArsenicSoup · 04/11/2014 18:24

But it's different there: people are coming for advice and reassurance, not to talk about what is at its core a political theory.

That's very true.

Not that you'd need a pow-wow or 'appointed' 'big girls' for this either...

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