Why can't we have a 'Stand up to violence against women night'?

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Whilst I applaud the ideals of the Stand up to cancer tonight, I wonder why we can't have a similar night against violence towards women, raising money for charities such as Rape Crisis, Women's Aid, Refuge, Karma Nivarna and raising awareness on these issues?

Will it ever happen??

Probably not. But why...?

We Should at least get some guest posts via MNHQ around the day? Shall I ask?

Good idea Yonic. A virtual march would be good for those of us not in the UK too.

That sounds like a great idea have no idea how to go about it

Though TBF BertieBotts, with the closing of refuge places, funding is more important than ever.

And I wonder - if we had a situation where every woman knew that she could walk out the door, with her kids, and had a safe place to go the instant her partner laid hands on her... and if there had been sufficient campaigning to make it crystal clear that it was OK to do that... would we see a reduction in DV?

I mean, the comparison we use is often 'Does your partner hit people at work?' so we know they might well suddenly find their temper not so uncontrollable if there were instant consequences.

Wow that's a brilliant idea Buffy, great way to raise some money ( any idea how to do it tho..?)

MrsBuffyCockhead - yes, a virtual march about online violence is a bloody brilliant idea. Timely,too.

Could every post on mn have a white ribbon attached with the message every week 2 women are killed this has to stop

Uber your sister sadly has been a victim of DV yet a few disagree with your approach and you are upset by a few comments made you have decided not to fight against dv along with feminists (who else fights against it) that says everything really your ego is more important we have seen it all before

Sorry, x-posts, I was referring to your 9.59 post.

The text idea is good WRT the DV campaign, which is what the thread is about after all, wouldn't want to derail it

I read a statistic a while back that said a donkey sanctuary (in Devon I think) received more in donations over a year than all the DV charities put together. Which is shocking, obvs - but I wondered if animal charities evoke more public sympathy, and women and children suffering dv are somehow seen as the state's responsibility? Despite a number of advertising campaigns to raise awareness of dv, people in general don't seem to process how prevalent it is.

I would love to see something that brought more money into Women's Aid, Women's refuges, they are so drastically underfunded.

Don't want to derail this thread any more but just seen ubers has just gone crying to dad's net about how all these nasty feminists won't listen to him. Oh boo hoo

[I wonder if ubersquiz is Gamergate related?

The only thing even vaguely touching on 'stereotyping' on this thread was 'being a man child and getting your kicks from living a fantasy world' and apparently 'our attitude is disgusting' for mentioning these 'offensive cliches about certain sections of the male gender'?

Now, I like shotgunning zombies as much as the next person (considerably more, if the next person is DH), but I'm not going to claim it's a mature and worthwhile pastime...

Since Gamergate appears to be essentially rampant misogyny under a thin veil of standing up for gamers' right not to be stereotyped, the cap would fit...]

/derail

Ok, I've reported to get them to take a look at this thread and its ideas!

I like the idea of a virtual march.

:( at derailing.

I reported ubersquiz's thread in Dadsnet for HQ to look at. It does seem he's here to cause trouble.

Good to some 'can do' attitudes. Good luck.

Don't know if this has been mentioned as skimmed but a couple of things caught my eye

MN get paid for advertising and maybe "per click"
Companies like to be seen supporting charities in simple ways - win/win - the company looks good the charity gets cash
Would the companies & MN who advertise with MN consider having say 2 weeks where every clickthrough the whole or half the click money goes to the charity or every purchase from a clickthrough means a donation or something like that?

Do MN already do this sort of thing sometimes?

You could have a single charity or a grouping of the main ones.

Sabrinnnnaaaaaaaaaa the donkeys get more money than the women because there is no question that the donkeys might have brought it on themselves / ought to have left / shouldn't have been wearing a short skirt or whatever it might be.

Hence children's charities get more. That's why they use children in adverst for aid efforts here and overseas, people have just much less empathy / sympathy with the plight of adults unless there are obvious vulnerabilities like serious disability and even then it doesn't always trigger a sympathetic reaction.

Even with children there are people who will think well it's up to their parents / the state / someone else.

An abused kitten meanwhile will tug the heartstrings every time.

Sadly, I think you're right, seven.

Seven you're so right. I used to work in charity fundraising and we would routinely not use case studies that might be unpopular with donors. We didn't feature people who may have 'brought it on themselves', or even appeared to have done so. Children worked best for the most part, simply because they are 'blameless'.

I'm massively in support of a VAW night but do agree that MrsDeVere has some valid concerns. I'm interested in what form an online march would take? I've never heard of one before and can't quite picture how it would work?

It's the 'Fluffy Wuffy Factor' (Andy Parsons) at work. Also, people do tend to judge on first impression so if you're not pretty, have the wrong sort of accent, wear crap clothes whatever they are, then lots of people will judge you harshly. So women get less sympathy, children a bit more, but animals are cute and fluffy and helpless.....

Not - not not not - suggesting you find cute and fluffy slebs to champion it though.

Hello btw! I don't come here often, but will certainly support a white ribbon day.