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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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HenriettaTurkey · 12/11/2014 18:07

Wow.

HenriettaTurkey · 12/11/2014 18:07

Really?

lemonmuffin1 · 12/11/2014 18:09

yes. a jury thinks he's guilty. but he's also allowed to appeal.

DaMoves · 12/11/2014 18:09

Un-fucking-believable. Yes, it's clearly HER fault. ConfusedHmm

ourbabybeau · 12/11/2014 18:11

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LittleBairn · 12/11/2014 18:13

WTF you acknowledge you wouldn't want it to happen to your worst enemy but because it did she must be a 'dirty skev' You are an absolute fucking disgrace.

HenriettaTurkey · 12/11/2014 18:13

Even if you put aside the outrageous misogyny and victim blaming going on here...which I'm not, you're not even accurate.

He returned to the hotel room his friend was in with the girl.

He forced himself on her.

He is a rapist.

ourbabybeau · 12/11/2014 18:15

Not what i'm saying. She's a dirty skev because she went off with a taken man because he's a footballer.

Ignoring the situation:

Let's saying someone mugged me in the street for £500 and the next day I find out they committed suicide. I'd feel sorry for them but it wouldn't detract from the fact they are a thief.

HenriettaTurkey · 12/11/2014 18:16

Oh well that's alright then.

ourbabybeau · 12/11/2014 18:18

So you think it's right to go off with a taken man? Because it isn't. Of course it isn't..

Foolishlady · 12/11/2014 18:19

This is ludicrous. When exactly did she go off with ched evans? And because she went back to a hotel room with a guy (not ched evans) she's a dirty skev who deserves to be raped by whoever comes into the room?

ourbabybeau · 12/11/2014 18:21

Clearly i've misunderstood what i've read. My bad. I apologise.

HenriettaTurkey · 12/11/2014 18:24

To clarify, beau. She went with another guy. He sent Ched a text who replied 'save me some of that'.

Then he turned around, returned to the hotel room and, after his friend was finished, raped her.

Clearly it's all her fault.

ourbabybeau · 12/11/2014 18:25

Yep. I've misread.

hangs head in shame

BellaSolanum · 12/11/2014 18:28

Two shirt sponsors have said that they've been assured he is just training, one has said they will reevaluate their sponsorship if he gets signed again, and the other has said they will definitely end their sponsorship if he does.

Hopefully SUFC are feeling the squeeze now

ourbabybeau Try checking facts first before victim blaming, and just for the record even if what you said wasn't totally wrong, if a woman goes back to a hotel room with a man and is unable to give consent to sex then it's still rape.

SevenZarkSeven · 12/11/2014 18:46

Jesus fuck why on earth the comparison to a mugger?

Even if she had been out to pull a footballer who was not single why on earth does that put her on a par with someone violently assaulting a stranger and stealing a large sum of money from them?

Baffled.

And that's not what happened anyway.

scallopsrgreat · 12/11/2014 19:44

It doesn't matter that you misread ourbabybeau. No woman is a 'dirty skev'. And any responsibility for keeping it in his pants lies squarely on the shoulders of the 'taken' footballer.

Such double standards. Such misogyny.

Amethyst24 · 12/11/2014 20:03

And EVEN IF your scenario had been true, ourbabybeau, which it's not, let's say they had picked each other up in a bar on a night out, how is it her responsibility to say, "Hold on, before I let you buy me a drink and show off about how you're a footballer, I just need to check you're not taken."

On what planet is she obliged to do that? Even if he hadn't raped her, WHICH HE DID, it's his responsibility not to cheat on his girlfriend, not her duty to repel his advances because he's "taken".

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FuckOffGerbil · 12/11/2014 20:26

fucking christ the twats are out in full force tonight. Angry

How about this... the person in a relationship making it known to others that they are "taken"? I don't know if every fucker I meet has a girlfriend, do you?

And FWIW, she could literally make fucking married footballers her job...and guess what rape, would still not be OK

YonicScrewdriver · 12/11/2014 20:40

"yes. a jury thinks he's guilty. but he's also allowed to appeal."

Not quite correct, muffin. He's allowed to apply for leave to appeal, which is what he has done. Incidentally, he has already applied twice for such leave and been turned down twice.

And the body to which he has applied turns down the vast majority of applications. So we will wait and see, but we are a long way from an actual appeal.

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