Why the fucking fuck is that rapist Ched Evans being released anyway?

[AskBasil]

I thought that in order to get parole, the minimum you had to do was admit that you are actually guilty of the crime for which you've been imprisoned?

But Evans the rapist hasn't admitted that he's a rapist. He keeps saying he's innocent.

So why is he being released?

Is this normal now?

Do all prisoners automatically get early release for good behaviour even if they keep saying they didn't actually do the crime, therefore proving that the one thing that used to be a necessity for early release - remorse - is definitely missing?

[AnyFucker]

Hup, every one of your posts has implied that the Justice System has let him down, not her

[MorrisZapp]

If you think he's guilty, why not call her the victim?

[Hup]

I have just referred to her as girl, as that is how I think of her - a young girl. No deliberate reason to not refer to her as victim. She, like me, is a victim of rape. It's a Nancy thing from Oliver Twist.

Anyfucker my original post was about why I thought his new appeal would succeed because of the evidence he would use following accusations of twitter and Facebook posts, following on from the OP which talks about his early release. I have continually been saying why I think he will get off on this new appeal, with all the (strangely gathered) new evidence. The evidence which I don't think will help the girl if it gets back to court as his defence team will try and show her as mercenary.

As for taken advantage of ... Her drunken state wax taken advantage of by the first man and by those taking photographs and videos of her. She was raped by Evans. As I have said I would have found the other man guilty too.

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

not read all of the thread, but I've posted a reference which may be relevant on the 'good video' thread. fwiw.

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

to clarify a bit IF it hasn't been explained, the Parole Board have nothing to do with his release. He received a Standard Determinate sentence, which means he is released at the half-way stage, and then is on licence for the rest of it.

Me, and a few others, believe offences of sexual assault and DV should get an indeterminate sentence i.e. release when your risk can be managed in the community and not before, but the law says otherwise.

[CaptChaos]

OMG! I agree with Pan!

[Hup]

Pan I totally agree. Evans will have the opportunity to exploit his fame and wealth.,

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

Just another Half Man Half Biscuit Poster poster!!

[AnyFucker]

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day

[AnyFucker]

...and I agree

[SevenZarkSeven]

"Me, and a few others, believe offences of sexual assault and DV should get an indeterminate sentence i.e. release when your risk can be managed in the community and not before, but the law says otherwise."

No argument from me on that either.

[CaptChaos]

Yeah, thanks AnyFucker, I feel better about it now

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

Stopped clock...I'll accept that AF.

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

the licence bit? Someone on a release licence can be recalled to prison IF they show any sign of presenting a further/continued risk. That is when the Parole Board have a role, to either support, or refuse, the recall.

[vicmackie]

Hup did your case ever make it to trial and if so was there a conviction?

[AlpacaYourThings]

Surely the fact he doesn't even recognise what he has done is rape means that he is still a risk to society?!

His family have had stickers and tshirts made with he face and 100% innocent on them, FFS.

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

Well, yes APT, but given his sentence, the law indicates he gets released. On the positive side...the people who will be supervising him will be v atuned to working with an unconstituted rapist, and, I'd suspect someone with his profile will mess up..and place himself at risk of recall. I'd guess.

[CaptChaos]

I have no doubt that he will do it again. I seem to remember reading that rapists rarely do it the once, they tend to be serial offenders. I know both the man who raped me when I was 15 and my exH were anyway.

I'm quite prepared to be proved wrong there though.

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

not by conviction though Capt - they may repeat offend, but, as we know, securing a conviction at all is a minefield.

[CaptChaos]

No... but, as you say, convictions for rape are not likely, no matter how good the evidence is. Christ, even getting a rape case to court is a miracle on a par with Lourdes, the Holy Father should probably be on stand by to beatify any silk who manages to secure a conviction? apologies, I find dark humour helps me on days when the memories flood back

Indeterminate sentences are probably a good thing, especially where it can be shown that the offender is likely to repeat his offence, as tends to be the case with rapists and peadophiles.

I am pretty sure I'm on solid ground with the peadophiles bit of that, from my forensics rotation. Not 100% on the rapists though.

The more I read of that awful website though.... rape myths a go-go. His victim was this, she did that, she enjoyed sex with other people, liked a drink, the insinuation that she was a coke head.... it's like they've gone across to allwomenlie.com and copied it all verbatim.

[AlpacaYourThings]

Agree CaptChaos the website is disgusting. His girlfriend comes across as very naive.

[Panwearsamagicjersey]

To get an indeterminate sentence, the bar is quite high < I could bore anyone senseless on this, as it's a passion of mine, as it would protect better girls and women, other vulnerable groups eg those with learning difficulties, racist victims, elderlies> and as the law stands he wasn't eligible for it. But in Pan-world he would be, with a slight tweak of sentencing practice.



I haven't seen the sites you mention - imagination is enough.

[AlpacaYourThings]

It's a website with various hits of "evidence" about how Ched is innocent. Such as, 'he couldn't be guilty he fed chips to seagulls and rapists don't do that'.