my niece made a point...

[JokersGiggle]

she's very intellectual but views things in a very black and white way.
She has strong feminist views like me (her mum doesn't care much ). In conversation she threw in FGM (as you do!) And in her opinion having a bikini wax done is a mild form of FGM.
Just throwing it out there for consideration. It really made me think.

I was a nanny to put extra cash into stocks. I made extra.money in a way in not proud of thanks to the father but it re boosted my self employed career as a marketing manager. Nothing in life Is possible without putting cash in. be brutal, take what you can and do what you want to quote my mother.

Oh, ok!

I don't wax my bikini line to gain a favourable opinion from the opposite sex. They shouldn't be looking at my bikini line. I do it so when I take my children swimming I don't have pubic hair sprouting around my swimming costume. Nobody wants to see that, male or female. I shave my armpits too. Don't particularly want them hairy either. Does that make me anti-feminism or just clean and tidy?

You are 21, were a nanny and are giving your sister £60,000 cash each year?

You're nuts OP

Putting your employers address online is a bit shady.

Come off it flower.. There are all sorts of post where you have kids etc..

Time to call it a day. But hey, you had me going!

Ilove, in post-patriarchy, either the pubic hair will be fine to show or the default swimsuit bottoms will be larger, as they are for men.

My old nanny employers lived in Marlow.

Look, there are far worse things in the world than playing out fantasy lives on the internet, but once you start losing track of all the (many, many) conflicting stories then it's only a matter of time before people notice and call you on it.

Don't worry about it, you haven't hurt anyone. But just have a think about why you do it. What can you change so you don't need to etc.

Sorry if that sounds patronising, it's meant genuinely.

I don't like hair on men either. But yes I see your point. It still wouldn't be very attractive though, conditioned thinking or not. Although a completely clean shaven fanjo is a bit wrong. It feels nice, especially if your dp likes it too, but it 'looks' prepubescent.

Absolutely nothing to do with FGM though.

Evening all. We've deleted JokersGiggle's last post as it gave out too much RL info. We think she was probably trying to make the point that she's a real person.

Can we ask everyone to be mindful of fact that we're trying to provide a forum for debate and peer support - and as real life is often stranger than fiction, perhaps it's just best to sometimes give the benefit of the doubt (or use our lovely 'report' button if need be).

Think peace and love folks, or failing that cocoa

I think I can safely say that following on from my last post I am definitely not thinking about cocoa. Gin, possibly.

Cheers!

Did she learn any good stuff about Africa or just this? I would prefer her to learn more positive information at her age and for this to come later.

Oh God, not Africa week. It's always 'let's teach the kids a whole load of stereotypical stuff'. It's always mud huts and pooing in holes in the ground, music and dancing, masks, chickens, giraffes, 'funny' clothes and traditions. Never modern cities and accountants and doctors and airplane pilots.

kentishgirl - when we looked at Africa we did include a whole range of things including big cities, etc. Not just about villages and traditional houses, etc. We looked at both.

We had a women in who was born and lived most of her life in Kenya and she was very knowledgable life in the villages and in the cities there.

I'm glad to hear that Hulababy. I'm still doubtful that many schools do a rounded approach. Especially as Africa is so vast you can fit the whole of the USA, China, Western Europe, India, Japan and Eastern Europe into it, area-wise. Hard to give much of a picture of all that in one week.

For us, it was part of a half term long project. We were primarily looking at "African safari" but obviously geography, and our children's own backgrounds, meant focusing on Africa as a continent and key countries, both modern and traditional ways of living, etc. Important as we have a number of children with African heritage.

Children need protecting from this abuse, the most important is that it doesnt happen to them but i also think learning about it is inappropriate

I think it depends entirely on how it is done, the learning that is.

We teach children about where it is appropriate for someone to touch them, we don't explain rape.

Children this age learn about WW2, but we don't give them details of torture or women drafted in to the 'Joy division'.