Sports activity for women - Burlesque?!

[Hawkmoth]

This has really pissed me off.

Lets get women into sport by er... Getting them to discover their "sultry side" and pander to porn-led notions of attractiveness. I'm so annoyed.

I do pole fitness (not pole dancing)
I also do spin, weights and horse ride
It's just another class to me, nothing sexual, great for my core and upper body and it's v social too

Oddly enough, it does help NiceTabard.
I often feel very dinosaur-like when reading the FWR boards, with my obsolete and archaic crusty old 70s views.

Tabard what a lovely way to describe people with different views to you

Pole dancing classes don't show you how to pole dance for performance. Not the ones that I've been to. They show you how to use your body strength to lift yourself and swing around the pole. I'm shit at it but they are fun and good exercise at the same time. You wear sports clothes and not underwear. That being said, what is it to you if someone wants to perform? No one is forcing them to and there is certainly no one telling you that you should too. Yes, if there was someone forcing a woman to dance for the pleasure of men of course that would be disgusting and go against every view of feminism that I have! but that isn't what we're talking about here.

I understand that everyone has different views on feminism and a lot of "old school" feminists are far less liberal in their views, but what I don't understand is how someone can tell someone else that what they think is completely wrong because, in their eyes, there is only one way to be a feminist; their way.

Pole fitness and pole dancing are (according to those that if it it) poles apart (pun intended), so I assume it is a pole fitness class you attend?

And I'm inclined to agree with tabard that people who think Blurred Lines represents feminism are wankers

I've never heard anyone making the argument that "Blurred Lines" represents feminism? Anyone have a link?

No, I'm not talking about Blurred Lines and I agree that that song (and Robin Prick) does not empower women at all. If someone could justify their argument for it, however, I certainly wouldn't call them a wanker, whether I agree or not.

but what I don't understand is how someone can tell someone else that what they think is completely wrong because, in their eyes, there is only one way to be a feminist; their way.

When you believe something is right, you also believe the opposite view of it is wrong. That's how ideology works.

HTH

Feminism IS about choice. People can do as they want.

You're confusing feminism with libertarianism.

So we get opinion pieces with both sides believing they are right. Said elsewhere debate on this sort of subject gets futile. It gets polarised between neo liberal feminism and radical feminism. And it seems the two cannot exist side by side on these boards. We will see shouty nasty messages that, as Flora says, say one side is right the other is wrong. And so two groups of women end up disenfranchised with each other. Just a reminder I am on the freedom of choice side of feminism.

I would wonder what is behind the 'choice'.