Learning our place.

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The article is on the subject of rape, but to me it turns into a very excellent narrative on how we are socialised to give in, be polite, not cause a fuss etc, and how this plays right into rapists hands.
social conditioning

That's a pretty powerful piece.

I love that post.

Full of lightbulb moments.

Jess, you do know about rape myths, don't you ? Be a dear and don't perpetuate them.

jess are you in the right place? It sounds like you were looking for a voice for men and somehow did a wrong turn.

You do realise that this is a board where we like to analyse stuff? Not just post moronic things about people's mediocre lives? It really doesn't sound like you'd feel at home here.

Jess reminds me of that old joke....'Are there any women on the internet???'

Is jess400 doing some kind of rap?

I suspect it's past your bedtime, jess400. Does your Mum know you're still up this late on a school night?

Nah, Jess, it's got nothing to do with politeness, it's about maturity.

I have another link I could post it's called 'derailing for dummies'

Logic is a wonderful thing.

It most assuredly is. You should perhaps try it sometime. Or coherence.

I have a sneaky suspicion that the MRAs are bored and are doing their, 'let's go and annoy the grown-ups' thing.

You'd think they'd be more inclined to organise fund-raising for male cancers, lobby for male DV shelters or something useful, but no! It's let's go and sneer at the feminists, because women have to sort their problems out for them.

You do not know my age so thanks for dropping the pleasantries as requested. I notice you haven't denied my argument, so enjoy staying up late under the rule of a dictator. The reason I say late is because i don't know your age, so i can make exactly the same accusation about you.I suspect it's past your bedtime, earthmither. Does your Mum know you're still up this late on a school night? mIther? Really?

Aw, Jess, you're not even trying to make this entertaining.

It's vernacular language, you thicko. Get to bed like a good lad now.

jess, on mumsnet we have a tradition of trolls being entertaining.

I'm afraid you're not living up to it.

Jess, why do you choose a woman's name when you are obviously a man?

Short for Jesse I expect.
As in Jesse, rod of something or other in the bible and Jesse James, shot in the back by wicked traitor and portrayed with beard by Brad Pitt (in film I still haven't seen)

Man? More of a boy...

2 posts about OP. 12 posts about another poster.

It must be very rewarding, if you seek that sort of attention.

A helluva lot of men are attention-seekers.

I've read that blog post before. It is very true, about how women are told not to make a fuss or have boundaries / opinions.

Brilliant article, thanks OP.

Another thanks from me for posting the article OP. It's powerful and somewhat scary.

I grew up in a violent household, which has given me some serious boundary issues. No huge surprise I went on to marry an abusive man...

awesome - thanks