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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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PaulMcGannsMistress · 26/11/2013 11:35

in a longer e-mail. Infuriating as the rest of it was, see what you make of this special little excerpt:

The Feminist said “Women require to be treated identically to men, because they are equal”I said “Are men and women identical, to require equality of treatment?”-

The Radical Feminist said “We do not want Women to be told what to do by sexist men”I said “You want women to be told what to do by sexist women”-

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Giyadas · 26/11/2013 14:50

It's always cringey to see someone battle their own straw constructions. Did the email end "and then everybody around me stood up and applauded"?

Treating people equally doesn't mean treating them all the same, and providing an alternative viewpoint to mainstream sexism isn't the same as compelling people to obey. Those are very old attempts at 'gotchas'.

scallopsrgreat · 26/11/2013 15:09

It is strange how treating women differently seems to end up with them at the bottom of the hierarchy.

A radical feminist would never say to be equal is to be treated identically. Radical feminism is about liberation of women from oppression. Unless it was someone different who said that - it isn't that clear.

And no I don't think we want our 'equality' defined by men either.

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 26/11/2013 15:16

The Feminist said “Women require to be treated identically to men, because they are equal”I said “Are men and women identical, to require equality of treatment?”

groan.

Who is this person, and why did they send it to you? Confused

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 26/11/2013 15:23

This seems to be the original abdullahalandalusi.com/2013/11/20/converses-of-wisdom/

Giyadas · 26/11/2013 15:32

What does it take to qualify as a Thinker, and can I add it to my cv?

ErrolTheDragon · 26/11/2013 15:41

That's what passes for 'wisdom' in his mind is it? Hmm

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 26/11/2013 15:58

Oh right. SO it was just a massive load of wank then.

I think you guys will find repeating something back to someone backwards and slightly wrong makes you a wise Thinker.

And the MRA said "make me a sandwich"
And I said, "It is you who shall make me a sandwich. And don't forget the mayo"

Feminist thinker.

PaulMcGannsMistress · 26/11/2013 16:26

Oh I get sent all kinds of shit from acquaintances, this one was just more irritating than most.

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SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 26/11/2013 16:55

"And the MRA said "make me a sandwich"
And I said, "It is you who shall make me a sandwich. And don't forget the mayo" Grin

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 26/11/2013 16:59

I fancy getting into the Thinker game too - but I'm going to mix it up a bit and call myself a cogitator, or maybe a ponderer.

drwitch · 26/11/2013 17:27

shouldn't it be and the MRA said "make me a sandwich"
and I said it is the sand which makes me

scallopsrgreat · 26/11/2013 20:20

Thanks for the link Saskia. Now I understand! Totally misunderstood what the OP was about and I thought the I said bits were what you said PaulMcGannsMistress

PaulMcGannsMistress · 26/11/2013 20:38

lol, well there was a time I would have lapped it up like the good little anti-feminist I was.

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CaptChaos · 27/11/2013 00:18

Well, that was a load of bollocks, wasn't it.

If that's all thinking entails, I shall work on becoming a philosophising thinky bot.

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