feminism v MRA's

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Hi all

I've been reading this board for the last couple of months as I'm keen to learn more on the subject. I see bits written about MRA's trolling etc but what I'd like to know is are there any MRA groups trying to work along side feminists for the good of children?

I've been trying to read more about the MRA groups but they don't get a good rep on here and to be fair googling it seems to mainly bring up negative stories. I'm sure there are plenty of men who aren't bothered about there kids.

I know of a few who were at school with me who are like that but even if just one good man is being restricted from seeing his kids by a vindictive mother and gets help from a group like that wouldn't it be worth it?

Im not trying to stir up an argument and may seem a little naive about it but like I said I'm trying to learn more about it.

Hope that makes sense

There's nothing to suggest that the accuser in that article was 'proven to be lying', Sigmund.

Who has been proven to be lying? The mother of the young man accused of rape in your link does not say his ex was proven to be lying. Have you read the link and put your own spin on it? Statistically, she was likely to be telling the truth and he got away with it. His mum thinks he didn't do it. Well DUH.

Your links also focus on young women lying about rape. Do you also think men and children lie about rape? Or just women?

Sorry, you're not leading me up that path.

No-one's leading you anywhere, Sigmund, just pointing out how you have extrapolated from the article you linked in order to suit your own agenda.

I think my head just exploded with the kettle/blackness of that comment Janine. But anyway, as above.

NiceTabard

Not to mention the women at college who have been suspended after reporting rapes and sexual assaults on them...

Excuse me Sigmund? Is that directed at me? Please do explain.

Of course. Pot/Kettle was a shortened version of this. From Wiki:

'The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" is an idiom used to claim that a person is guilty of the very thing of which they accuse another.'

In this case, it's persons, I know you said it, but it's very common round these parts.

My head didn't literally explode. That was kind of a euphamism for 'Blimey o Riley, I'm rather speechless'.

Anyhoo, must go pick up DH.

SF - You seem very angry today.

Come and have a cuddle.

Sig

This is a board about feminism not a board for feminists, as has been discussed before. Nonetheless, the majority of posters are feminists and given how scathing you are about feminism and feminists, is it any wonder that disagreement sometimes becomes robust?

Robust.

Or cuddly.

Whichever.

charity just ignore sigmund. Not something I'm capable of, obviously, but still.

I have been much less active lately as am tired of MRA trolling but, you know, it's nice to get engaged, there are so many good people here and also people reading but not engaging who you would be talking to

"If a woman regrets the sexual encounter, she can easily cry rape. Not only is the guy presumed guilty, he’s screwed if it gets as far as a college tribunal."

That's another reason feminists tend to dislike MRA's. Because they are rape apologists.

And here is SF doing her usual modus operandi. Post a whole load of MRA shite then refuse to answer direct questions put to her. Then when the questions become persistent, she finds a reason to exit the thread. Until tomorrow, when she will do the whole thing over again.

Yeah it's bollocks innit

The phrase "cry rape" is so misogynistic that it is hard to know where to begin with it.

It does however expose the MRAs who employ it, as the anti-feminist, anti women's rights, male supremacists that they really are. MRA is just a euphemism for male supremacist.

THAT was deemed a PA?

Really?

Thought SF had retired from the FWR section. Oh well.

I think it's a comeback tour, Chub.

It's quite a pattern really. Random op posts faux naive nonsense, SF pops up and hijacks.

Female MRAs are difficult to understand. I always wonder if it is self loathing that really drives them to choose to support privileged males over their own sex. Having sons just doesn't cut it...I have a son and if anything that made me MORE supportive of feminism.

Because I want him to be a kind, empathetic and proactive man who works and lives alongside women, enriching their lives as they will enrich his...I mean.

I agree with HeadGirl. I don't feel it's my job to help my son feel that he's better than 50% of the population without even getting out of bed. How would that help him? He needs to make his own way in the world on his own merits without the cloak of invisible help provided by the world beding over backwards for you because you're a man. I've taught him (I hope) that people are judged on their own merits, and his father (DH) is a feminist as well so he has an excellent role model at home.

DS still comes out with some occasionally ill-thought tosh, but he only just out of adolescence so it's understandable. He's a reasonable boy- we have a conversation about it, he sometimes sees my point of view, sometimes not, and hopefully learns a little bit more from it.

Less understandable when worse is said by nasty little men in their 40s and 50s sitting in their bedrooms.

Something for SF: a blog by my friend. Oh yeah, we've achieved equality all right. We should just STFU. hmm