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Can I ask you for some links about porn please?

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EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 20/10/2013 10:29

Specifically accounts of ex porn actors talking about abuse/coercion in porn films, and anything academic about the effects of porn on male sexuality and sexual attitudes?

I've read bits, but I'm already convinced. This is for a friend whose new boyfriend doesn't get it and she feels like she doesn't have the evidence to show him.
Thanks

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FloraFox · 22/10/2013 21:52

A number of sex acts presented in porn significantly increase the risk of STI. A person who has engaged in such acts with other persons increases the likelihood of passing an STI to another person even through more normal sex acts.

SoWhatSoWhatSoWhat · 22/10/2013 21:57

Using condoms doesn't feature heavily in porn, so porn users are apt to be a bit careless about their use.. so if you've drunkenly shagged someone without a condom by mistake, it's always a good idea to get checked out.

Of course I'm not stigmatising visiting an sti clinic. But it's still not fun.

No-one there is handing out stickers saying "I was very brave at the sti clinic today."

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 22:01

Flora - which acts? You can get an STI from normal sex you know.

If every took responsibility for their own health then there would be less chance of getting an STI. This would be true of everyone, irrespective of porn watching.

I don't think watching porn instantly means you act it out. I don't think this is true for watching sex, violence or anything.

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 22:03

Sowhat - I don't think porn watchers are less likely to use condoms? I don't know where you get that from. You are more likely not use a condom if you are catholic.

Contraception is everyone's responsibility

AngryFrank · 22/10/2013 22:08

Confused Is this a wind up? Seriously are you really saying that people who watch hardcore porn are more likely to have an STI? This just gets better and better!

Was this included in the Gail Dines books by any chance?

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 22:10

An STI of the hard drive

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EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 22/10/2013 22:19

Come on folks, that doesn't help your argument. People who don't watch porn also engage in oral, anal and group sex which I assume is what you are referring to. Porn users are no more or less likely to have stis than non porn users.

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FloraFox · 22/10/2013 22:24

bale anal, anal-to-oral, anal-to-vaginal, vaginal-to-oral, all whether or not using a condom.

And yes, again with individual responsibility. Here are the men to tell us there's no need to worry about power structures in society or sexual relationships or how porn affects real people's sex lives so long as you take responsibility for yourself. No feminism needed here, move along ladies, nothing to see.

AngryFrank · 22/10/2013 22:32

Good point Yougotbale, porn can certainly cause harm to our computers, that's why we should always 'rubber up' with some antivirus software. Smile

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 22:33

Flora - I'm not saying that. It was all the untruths and sweeping statements being passed off as facts or the norm.

If everyone takes responsibility there is less STIs, not if there is less porn, less STIs.

I haven't told you anything, flora, I just disagreed what was said about STIs. It's a discussion flora?? Posters on here will be either men or women, you know. Don't try and spin everything to fit your theory. It makes a fucking mockery of proper cases of the oppression of women.

FloraFox · 22/10/2013 22:49

Are you fucking kidding? I don't need you to tell me how to do fucking feminism. I don't need you to tell me what are "proper cases of the oppression of women". Get to fuck with that bullshit!

BasilBabyEater · 22/10/2013 22:53

Ah, but Yougotbale is so much more competent to judiciously decide what is "legitimate oppression" laydeez, and what is just made up feminist oppression.

I hear that when it's legitimate oppression the female body closes that whole thing down anyway.

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 22:57

Flora - me giving an opinion is simply that. I don't think that porn watchers are more likely to have sex in a way that is outrageous and I don't think porn watchers are more likely to have an STI.

You saying, 'here are the men to tell us', is just false and trying to play the victim. You can't take every interaction with a man and assume they are 'telling you' to try and oppress you. It's not the case. Classing it as that makes a mockery of real issues, IMO.

People will give their opinions, they are not 'telling you'. It's sad if you think it is that way.

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 23:01

Yougotbale saying he disagrees with the opinions on STIs is not a genuine feminist issue, IMO

FloraFox · 22/10/2013 23:05

bale I couldn't give a flying fuck what you think about porn watchers nor whether you express it on here. You asked a question which I answered. This isn't about you and me, I don't rate your opinion very highly and am not afraid of you trying to oppress me fat fucking chance

If you're going to come onto a board for discussion of feminist discussion with yanno feminists, then I do care about you saying what women should or shouldn't be concerned about, that every individual is responsible for what happens to them, what is or isn't a proper case of oppression or what is or isn't a "real" issue. That is highly entitled thinking.

FloraFox · 22/10/2013 23:06

sock puppet fail?

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 23:19

Flora - that's the point I'm not trying to oppress you. I'm giving my opinion on the subject. I'm not 'telling' you anything. The fact that you associate an opinion from a man as being oppressive days more about you than me.

I was saying you shouldn't be concerned about my opinion. Trying to turn it in to an example to stand up your theory was wrong. Trying to read oppression in to it was also wrong from my point of view.
I said every individual should take responsibility for their sexual health (even if they are not shagging a porn watcher). A no brainer, IMO.

I don't think you should put a spin on what I was saying. Imply it was oppressive and turn it in to an issue to back up your theory. I think this is unfair to me and feminism. That's what I didn't like. You can say that's entitled but I don't like you wrongly accusing me of oppression when it clearly wasn't there.

I'm sure you can fit me in to the entitled box and enjoy it fitting your views.

ScaryFucker · 22/10/2013 23:22

YGB is there a reason why you suddenly started talking in the third person in your post of 23:01 ?

BasilBabyEater · 22/10/2013 23:24

PMSL at "unfair to me and to feminism"

Grin

Because really, they're the same thing. With the same goals.

I can't help it if all these women are doing it wrong. It's unfair to feminism to be able to spot an attitude of entitlement over the internet ether...

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 23:32

Basil - it's wrong to imply that me disagreeing with info given on STIs is a feminist issue.

The entitled bit came after that fact. It was a response to turning a point about STIs into 'oh no he's telling me', when that wasn't the case.

BasilBabyEater · 22/10/2013 23:36

Yougotbale - it's not wrong to imply that men who tell women how to do feminism, are never going to sound credible.

BasilBabyEater · 22/10/2013 23:37

Especially when they're prone to lapsing into the third person.

Basilbabyeater is uninterestic in your trifling concerns.

Yougotbale · 22/10/2013 23:38

I'll change my mind if me saying:

I don't think that porn watchers are more likely to have sex in a way that is outrageous and I don't think porn watchers are more likely to have an STI. I think people should take responsibility for their sexual health (even if they are have sex with a non-porn watcher.

Is (a) oppressive and (b) a feminist issue

BasilBabyEater · 22/10/2013 23:38

Uninterested, sorry.

BasilBabyEater · 22/10/2013 23:38

BasilBabyEater is uninterested in Yougotbale's mind.