Can I ask you for some links about porn please?

[EhricLovesTeamQhuay]

Specifically accounts of ex porn actors talking about abuse/coercion in porn films, and anything academic about the effects of porn on male sexuality and sexual attitudes?

I've read bits, but I'm already convinced. This is for a friend whose new boyfriend doesn't get it and she feels like she doesn't have the evidence to show him.
Thanks

yoni - really? intelligent input. Evidently you haven't read my posts

Oh no.

Now it's questioning people's intelligence.

as well as de-railing, backpedalling and nitpicking.

Joy.

sorry for going back to an earlier point, but the "fact" that there are more search engine requests for "non hardcore porn" than hardcore porn does not in any way prove that it is only a minority of men who are looking for hardcore porn. The conclusion simply cannot be reached from the search engine statistics. It's another example of how the pro-porn lobbyists try to manipulate women into "expanding their boundaries".

Also, it's interesting how the pro-porn types are always going on about censorship. Why not have porn on CBeebies? What about beheadings, let's have some of those on tv.

sabrina - does that post contribute to the discussion one way or another?

yoni post was not a correct assumption and it said more about the poster than me, in my opinion posts based solely on self evidently false prejudice cannot be intelligent

flora - nor does it prove men do.

'Bout as much as yours did, paper...

flora - you dont have porn on cbeebies for the same reason you don't have mickey mouse on the porn channel.

none would purchase it

sabrina - touche. the post annoyed me it was stupid assertion.

sorry to clarify yoni 's post annoyed me. Yours was amusing because it was doing exactly what it was complaining about

Well quite, Flora. But, as someone on another thread very kindly mansplained to me recently, those examples are not censorship because they are illegal dear.

Ho ho. Love it.

I do not want any porn. I don't think under patriarchy there is such a thing as feminist or ethical porn. All porn objectifies women and portrays a patriarchial view of sex.

And yes, we already have censorship. You can't show bestiality on ordinary TV channels. That is censorship. You have rules about what can be shown before and after 9pm on TV. That is censorship. You have film ratings saying what age of children can see it. That is censorship.

And I agree with this censorship.

So you didn't mean to compare ethical treatment of women in porn to free range eggs?
We just had a man compare buying women to buying beer on another thread. Thus my post.

greenie - actually I found out today that isn't what age restrictions do. they restrict who can purchase not who can comsume. even that is a social construct.

point is your post is your opinion. it is not mine. it can affect who you choose to interact with. (within the law) it can't and shouldn't dictate mine

Yes he did just compare the two Yoni. He sees buying women the same as buying eggs. Says it all.

Paper that is disingenous. If you restrict who can buy a cinema ticket, you restrict who can watch the film in the cinema.

yoni - that is more intelligent input. thank you for rephrasing without the borderline personal attack on me.

but no if you read my thread I am not comparing porn to buying eggs. it was a way if explaining that the objection to porn raised was an argument against the production methods not consumption

greenie - who can purchase not who can watch the film in your own home

greenie - he? that was the prejudicial assumption I referred to earlier

In your own home of course it can't be enforced in terms of DVDs. But responsible parents pay attention to age restrictions. But it si enforced in terms of what can be shown on ordinary TV.

But the point is we do have censorship already. If we didn't, you would be able to watch bestiality on ordinary TV. You can't, for very good reasons.

paper - I thought you were a man? Are you not?

self censorship not state censorship. read my posts I'm all for self censorship.

as I've said before would it matter if I was a man or a woman? according to you I would still be comparing porn to buying eggs whether I was male or female