Can I ask you for some links about porn please?

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Specifically accounts of ex porn actors talking about abuse/coercion in porn films, and anything academic about the effects of porn on male sexuality and sexual attitudes?

I've read bits, but I'm already convinced. This is for a friend whose new boyfriend doesn't get it and she feels like she doesn't have the evidence to show him.
Thanks

face palm - a few interviews aren't going persuade a porn user to stop using. they will just bring up ethical porn "lets make our own" etc.

In fact I posted earlier. if you haven't got the confidence on your own convictions to say "I don't like this you need to leave" whatever it's about there's bigger problems than porn

look at the threads on here. realistically though men who watch porn are unlikely to change just get better at hiding it.

if you at the stage of producing ex porn star interviews as a way of removing porn In your relationship, the relationship has already failed

Yy - pushing boundaries is all a bit 'blurred lines' and rapey isn't it?

paper - Do you push your own boundaries during sex?

pushing is the wrong word. exploring to me would be the right one

and someone who said go on try it over and over is just the type of person who we should be warning our kids (male and female) about.

they exist regardless of porn

"look at the threads on here". We do. And we see what porn does to men who watch it regularly.

They erode the boundaries of the people around them. Like 3-yr old boys. Their empathy is eroded. Instead of a wider 'boundary pushing' view , sex actually gets narrowed down (certainly for the woman).

Paper - that is the second time today I have questioned something you said and you changed what you meant.

What do you mean by exploring?

greenie - never once have I asked you about your sexual boundaries or practices don't presume to ask or know about mine.

see there's a boundary. you crossed it

I am not the one saying that boundaries should be pushed.

I think if you read what I actually say neither do I.

paperlantern. I actually think that being educated and seeing the abuse towards women in the porn industry can be a mega eye-opener to avid porn viewers - and make them lose their taste for it. Unless they're turned on by the abuse of women, of course.

I think if you read what I actually say neither do I.

Oh ha! You haven't stopped banging on about it since last night.

sabrina - maybe but that isn't actually an argument against consumption. it's an argument against production

I just looked back because I certainly don't agree with pushing.

I talked about expanding not pushing. Other people used pushing. there's a difference

buffy -here we are in total agreement. only I see both aspects as two sides of the same coin.

and equally applicable to both sexes

Still don't agree paper - people don't want to 'consume' something they find unpalatable - and one hopes that most men find the abuse of women is not something that they would find a turn-on.

in fact I never used pushing

You still didn't answer basil though - expanding from 'what' to 'what'?

but the logical conclusion to that argument is to regulate the source. like free range eggs and welfare meat. or produce your own

the not an argument against porn in itself

that is and should be personal to each individual. hence my not replying.

mine will be different than yours.

I hate people walking behind me when I eat. that's a personal boundary. I don't need to explain why. but if you respect me you won't do it

ps that isn't a boundary I would explore I know I don't like it. I wouldn't tolerate someone deliberately pushing it either

free range eggs? welfare meat? do you know what you're saying there?

Oh look another man comparing women to food.

yes your arguments are against the production not the consumption. there's a difference