Can I ask you for some links about porn please?

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Specifically accounts of ex porn actors talking about abuse/coercion in porn films, and anything academic about the effects of porn on male sexuality and sexual attitudes?

I've read bits, but I'm already convinced. This is for a friend whose new boyfriend doesn't get it and she feels like she doesn't have the evidence to show him.
Thanks

whenthered - I think you'll find if you read my past posts you'll get a good idea of why o think porn problematic.

sorry by homemade porn. I mean porn you yourself have made for your own consumption.

I still want to know from what to what people want to expand sexual boundaries and for what purpose.

why is expanding sexual boundaries good?

for me far greater sexual freedom and satisfaction.

why is it bad?

ps I don't care if other people don't. I'm probably pretty comfortable with my boundaries as there are now. But by exploring them knowing what lies outside as well as in I am more confident in enforcing them

buffy - but by taking the view that anything damaging should be banned we also ban the chippendales, women's magazines etc etc

now hopefully you see the problem with a blanket ban and state censorship

But nobody is defining what they are expanding from and where to.

It's all meaningless.

nobody is defining what should be banned.

bu that argument the ban is meaningless anyway

apologies I went from a specific response to you to a more general point

apologies I went from a specific response to you to a more general point

apologies I went from a specific response to you to a more general point

apologies I went from a specific response to you to a more general point

"now hopefully you see the problem with a blanket ban and state censorship"

hahahahhaahah

Cos that's what everyone's been calling for, isn't it?!

Don't worry, the state isn't going to ban wank fodder.

Gah bad very bad!!! silly phone

Why push boundaries?

Why not let them expand naturally if that seems to be the drift

Meaningless little buzzwords uncritically applied to everything from Frankie Boyle to yoghurt

Nobody's talked about a ban - op (aeons ago...) asked for examples of abuse/coercion in the porn industry for a friend to talk to a bf about it.

She did not ask about how on earth anyone could possibly expand their sexual boundaries without porn.

basil - really is that an argument?

using the arguments presented against porn on this thread I can argue against even things as innocuous as the chippendales.

so if a ban isn't what the anti porn lobby on this thread are advocating what are they

Nobody should be pushing boundaries. Boundaries are there for a reason. If a woman wants to change her boundaries, fine.

Reminds me of the BDSM advice given out in some "respected" websites about pushing your partners boundaries just a little bit further than she may feel comfortable with.

Oh ffs.

That wasn't at you grennie (as I'm sure you know).

Yes that's what I'm getting at.

I don't even know what people mean when they talk about "pushing boundaries".

That's the language used by those porn merchants when they are intent on ensuring that the porn actresses personal boundaries are totally pushed aside. They start out saying they won't do anal/ spanking/ insert practice here and in the end, they agree to it because they've been worn down. Or "seen how far they can go" or "pushed their boundaries".

I know Sabrina.

I think women are raised to ignore their boundaries. We should be encouraging women to have and stick to their boundaries.

All this boundary pushing too seems to involve women pushing thier boundaries. Strange how men aren't expected to push their own boundaries.

Yes. They are never asked to push their boundaries to try out anal sex with a man - go on love, you would enjoy it if you only TRIED