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Porn programme - C4

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mcmooncup · 30/09/2013 22:30

It is really pissing me off that this is ALL ABOUT THE MENZ

All I have heard is how these poor boys are exposed to porn, developing addictions, unable to have real sex. Boo fucking hoo.

What about the effect on women? Like really. Really.

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Grennie · 01/10/2013 23:30

Gail Dines has been on over 100 porn studios as they are making porn and watched tons of porn. Why would you doubt her? Have you read her book?

AnyFucker · 01/10/2013 23:30

So, I hear the producer of this programme found his conscience about his own role in the promotion of porn and the objectification of women only after he had his own children.

Right. How fucking magnanimous of him.

kotinka · 01/10/2013 23:31

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Sinful1 · 01/10/2013 23:36

"Erm, yeah sinful1, you know, it just affects women through " men's views towards them and sex in general."

Is that not rather fundamental confused"

huh?

sorry i was trying to say surely if they want to look at the effect it has through the change in mens attitudes then surely you have to analyse the men watching it?

Also, i'm pretty sure not just straight men watch porn, so im not sure how it "just2 affects women, unless im reading you wrong?

AnyFucker · 01/10/2013 23:37

This bloke just wants a big fat Biscuit

kotinka · 01/10/2013 23:42

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KaseyM · 01/10/2013 23:50

"How does porn affect women negatively"

Quite simply, it puts them under pressure to do things they might not want to.

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:03

Don't know if anyone linked the programme?

Gail Dines knows her stuff - of course she's watched it. And the kids interviewed for this series confirm that they are seeing the nasty porn that is, well, most of it now. You have to make an effort to find porn that is 'soft' these days.

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:05

kotinka:

He was 19 so not a minor.

KaseyM · 02/10/2013 00:10

Am watching the doc and God is it depressing, the way they're talking about women.

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:21

What are you on about libertarianj?

Extreme porn is mainstream: you only have to type the word 'porn' into google to see that.

And don't try telling me that it comes up on my computer because I look up 'rape' or 'child abuse' a lot, like most feminists. Hmm

It's there immediately - you know it, we all know it. Stop being silly.

WhentheRed · 02/10/2013 00:26

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ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:31

Don't blame you. The chat with the young porn addict about 'real girls' is about 20 mins in if you can stomach it.

KaseyM · 02/10/2013 00:33

WhentheRed, I'm about 2 thirds through and it's not getting much better. The presenter just seems more concerned with its effect on boys' ability to get girlfriends than on any end effect it has on girls...

I'm hoping that the next episode might be different

KaseyM · 02/10/2013 00:35

I think it's the way he refers to his time at Loaded like it was just an innocent bygone time.

libertarianj · 02/10/2013 00:37

Gail Dines has been on over 100 porn studios as they are making porn and watched tons of porn. Why would you doubt her? Have you read her book?

no but i have seen these videos:

Gail Dines knows her stuff - of course she's watched it. And the kids interviewed for this series confirm that they are seeing the nasty porn that is, well, most of it now. You have to make an effort to find porn that is 'soft' these days.

That's not true at all. There is literally tons of softcore sites out there, especially webcam sites, like Live jasmin which pops up everywhere. Then there is the whole art erotica scene eg met-art, femjoy, hegre-art, onlytease, Art lingerie, Abby Winters etc.

Just looking on freeones (worlds most popular porn search forum), the most popular model on there (highest number of views) is Nikki Simms, followed by Anna Angel, Kari Sweets and Kates Playground. All softcore models.

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:39

But aren't kids just going to try Google first?

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:41

Or, when you're 8 years old, do you type 'femjoy' into your search engine?

WhentheRed · 02/10/2013 00:41

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KaseyM · 02/10/2013 00:41

When they talk about "teenagers" I keep having to remind myself they mean "teenage boys". I've obviously been hanging around feminists too long Grin

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:43

"And the kids interviewed for this series confirm that they are seeing the nasty porn"

"That's not true at all"

Oh. Well, if you say so.

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:44

Quite, WhentheRed.

Cos Loaded wasn't about male-dominance and female humiliation at all, no siree.

FamiliesShareGerms · 02/10/2013 00:44

Didn't get much further than the interview with the porn addict (who was 19, not a minor), and wasn't sure whether to be more shocked at the really casual reference to having anal sex with the girls with nice bums (I mean, really, how many 18-20 year old girls really want casual anal sex?), or the fact he wanked 25 times a day (he can't have done anything else with his day).

ArmyOfPenguins · 02/10/2013 00:48

It's not that they don't want casual anal, Families.

They're just not confident enough.

KaseyM · 02/10/2013 00:49

Oh for goodness sake. I can just see this being used to tell women not to use hot pants.

Ah... at last a bit of sense from Gail Dines.

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