Slane girl 2013

[FrigginRexManningDay]

I became aware of this yesterday on twitter and subsequently other social networking sites. It took hours for twitter to act.

Eminem played at Slane Castle on Saturday. A girl was photographed performing a sex act there. The picture went up on twitter and Facebook basically destroying this girl. The picture was retweeted many many times often with derogatory comments. The boys involved were regarded as heroes and legends. Slut shaming at its worst.
The girl is 15/16 years old (different reports of her age). It took Twitter hours and hundreds of emails to get them to react.
She is a young girl thrown to the lions.

[FreyaSnow]

I think that's perhaps the point. The police cannot go out and track down the vast number of people who have chosen to download this image, or retweeted it etc because there are simply too many of them.

So many people now think it is acceptable to view child pornography that it would be impossible to deal with them all through the legal system.

Very sad.

[OctopusPete8]

I came across it on fb of all places,
theres 13 year olds that will have seen that.

[OctopusPete8]

Although I think both of them need arresting and a tap on the wrist, the pair of them.

much younger children could have witnessed that.

[FreyaSnow]

Did you report it?

[OctopusPete8]

Yeah , I didn't comment on it though not inviting that window of abuse.

Its off now I bet a few people did.

Im actually more bothered about the younger teens who may have seen it, I think calling people who have seen it 'observing child pornography' is out of line, I see threads on here about people complaining there teen niece or something is uploading half naked pictures on fb, are they 'observing child pornography?'

[FreyaSnow]

Whether or not something is or is not child pornography depends on the context. An image as part of an album of say, a beach holiday might not be. The same image in a collection of half naked teenagers collected and put together on somebody else's computer might well be considered as such when investigated by the police.

That is all pretty much irrelevant to the images in this case which clearly showed a sexual act involving somebody who it now seems is very likely to not be an adult. To look at such an image is to observe child pornography.

[OctopusPete8]

I think in terms of fb it shouldn't count you don't have much choice what pops up in your newsfeed, but there we go.

I would perhaps the same for twitter/tumblr tbh although I dunno.

[smaths]

There is more than one photo though, of the same girl performing the same "act" on two different men at the same concert... and another photo of one of the men with his hand up her knickers. I think that is why she was being particularly derided on social media. A foolish thing to do in public no matter what age you are, but the fact she is underage and the pictures were being shared everywhere is totally unacceptable.

[OctopusPete8]

Is there? oh right.

makes you feel v. dirty though just seeing that.

I wonder what she/her parents must be going through.

[StephenFrySaidSo]

I hadn't heard of this til this thread but a quick google shows him also performing a sex act on her. has there been a 'slane boy' thing? doubt it.

i'd say drink/drugs/ a dare of some sort.

[FrigginRexManningDay]

Poor girl is under sedation in hospital .

[KellyHopter]

Bloody hell, poor thing.

I don't understand why anyone is even commenting on the rights or wrongs of what she did. That is so not the point. If you walked past them with your child then of course, tell them to have a bit of bloody respect but you didn't. If you've seen this picture it's on the Internet, and more than likely have sought it out
The point is that that our view of female sexuality is so utterly fucked that an image a young girl engaging in a sexual act is taken and spread and people people are falling over themselves to see it and make vile comments. Why? I highly doubt those getting all excited about it have never seen porn - it's purely about humiliation.
And that vile mix that some men have of feeling disgusted at a female engaging in sex and bitterness that its not them on the receiving end. It's fucked up.

[OctopusPete8]

really? poor lass did she attempt to kill herself.

[StephenFrySaidSo]

[OctopusPete8]

I dont think anyone was making vile comments

Why are you suggesting people sought it out? is that what you did??

some transference going on here.

[FrigginRexManningDay]

She's just really distraught according to reports.
I have heard back of some of the vile comments from both men and women jumping on the bandwagon to berate her.

[KellyHopter]

I think you can quite clearly tell from the tone of my post that I would be highly unlikely to seek it out.

I have read about it, there's already a few good comment pieces about this which is heartening. I haven't seen the picture and won't.

And the vile comments I'm talking about are in reference to the kind mentioned in the op. sorry to have confused you Pete.

[Boosterseat]

Humilation is exactly the right word Kelly, and I would be equally as angry with my child for passing it around as I would be if they were actually taking part.

If everyone was judged on their actions at 17 most of us would be red faced on a daily basis, that poor young woman.

I sincerely hope she gets through this otherwise these "sharers" also have a lot to answer for.

[NiceTabard]

Have not seen any of these things on facebook and so on so going on this thread.

It shows up how things are when two young people engage in a mutual sex act and it is pictured, the reaction is humiliation for one party and thumbs up for the other. A toxic mix of slut/virgin and porn.

In an equal world both of those young people would feel / get the same for a mutual sex act which got photographed and sent around.

And even more, thinking about it, why should the person who is revealing their mouth be more vilified than the person with their genitals out? That's not normally how it works.

Oh yes because slut/virgin and porn.

I keep posting and erasing what next for her and just everyone involved. Could go on for ages. I don't want to make any assumptions as to her past/motivations/state of mind so I won't. that's just unguessable.

booster re : if cameras were there in our day, agree. awful. the prevalence of cameras is skewing people's behaviour in a really awful way

[NiceTabard]

Goes without saying I hope she is OK.

Is the boy in the picture sedated in hospital? NO?

Fucking patriarchy.

(PS will eat words if he is, obviously)

[SinisterSal]

Aside from the double standards -
It's troubling that it wasn't a mutual sex act, it was she performing a sexual service for him (in a sense)
It wasn't two teenagers engulfed in passion. It was someone performing and someone else accepting accolades, in more ways than one.
i am not phrasing this well, can anyone else do a better job.

[KellyHopter]

No totally makes sense sal.

[PeriodMath]

There's another picture Sal, might make you think differently.

[SinisterSal]

Perhaps, haven't been following it closely, but the impression that's given was that it was all her performing o.s on him.

[jacobsmummy20]

The girl was confirmed to be 17, the age of consent in Ireland.
I think the whole thing is a disgrace, I think she made a really bad choice and the images were awful to see.
Don't get me wrong the boy clearly has no respect for women or that girl at all, he viewed himself as a ledgend or a 'lad' and he probably doesn't care that this has gone viral. If my son ever did such a thing...scratch that because id raise him better than to ever treat a young woman like that, but the girl....i am not on her side at all, I think she objectified herself and I as a woman am embaressed for her. Im not perfect and have made mistakes but I have not done something like that, something I consider intimate in front of an 'audience' it makes me sick. She did that and now her family are probably mortified and disgusted. The garda request that everyone respect her privacy? It didn't look like she wanted much privacy. If you give bj's out to multiple men in a crowd of people with camera phones what was supposed to happen? The bigger question I wonder is where were her friends to keep her right, to be there for her? Im sure she didn't go alone. Her life is probably ruined and I think the whole thing has gone too far. But when im super drunk I talk crap, fall about and maybe cry...i dont disrespect myself like she did. The boy? He should be shamed because he is a complete example of how the boys behave these days.