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Slane girl 2013

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FrigginRexManningDay · 19/08/2013 10:54

I became aware of this yesterday on twitter and subsequently other social networking sites. It took hours for twitter to act.

Eminem played at Slane Castle on Saturday. A girl was photographed performing a sex act there. The picture went up on twitter and Facebook basically destroying this girl. The picture was retweeted many many times often with derogatory comments. The boys involved were regarded as heroes and legends. Slut shaming at its worst.
The girl is 15/16 years old (different reports of her age). It took Twitter hours and hundreds of emails to get them to react.
She is a young girl thrown to the lions.

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Boosterseat · 19/08/2013 10:57

Heartbreaking, how long before people are slating her "technique" too?

As she is underage isn't it illegal to distribute this material?

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FrigginRexManningDay · 19/08/2013 11:03

Yes it is. I wouldn't be holding my breath over anyone being punished though.

Its just the blatant sexism couldn't be clearer. He's a legend,she's a slut. Sad

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Boosterseat · 19/08/2013 11:08

I'm not on Facebook or twitter but I have popped an email out now advising anyone who sees this to report.

Poor girl, its abhorrent.

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FrigginRexManningDay · 19/08/2013 11:26

Thank you booster

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OctopusPete8 · 19/08/2013 14:07

Eminem? the Eminem having sex with a 16 year old??

OctopusPete8 · 19/08/2013 14:10

Sorry re-read, hmmm as a parent myself I would be livid had my son or daughter had put themselves in a position to be photographed in that sit, sex is a private thing not something you do to everyone you brush up against.
However the double standards is wrong, I would probably have a low opinion of both.

YoniTime · 19/08/2013 15:27

I know nothing about this. Was she masturbating by herself or was the sex act was performed on someone else? One or more of the boys you mention?
Since you wrote perform instead of having sex, was she doing it freely because she wanted to or not? That worries me.

Anyway, no matter what happened - how can we make sure boys stop look at girls at the other, as someone who you can use while bonding with other guys over it?
Young men are obviously being strongly taught this somehow. It's something that happens over and over again, in various forms.

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:30

The main picture that's doing the rounds is one of her giving a top less lad with his trousers atound his ankles a blow job in a crowded area (looks like the toilet area due to the fencing etc) in daylight hours.
The lad is giving some sort of thumbs up gesture but not to the camera, most likely to someone else taking a photo though.

YoniTime · 19/08/2013 15:31

*look at girls as the Other.

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:34

While I do agree that there's been a good deal of shaming put on the girl, the mere fact it's been dubbed "slane girl" rather than anything referring to the guy involved proves that, I haven't seen anyone referring to him as a legend.
Most things I've seen wind of have been highly negative comments on his physical appearance and size of manhood.

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:36

It's all fairly depressing
They're both obviously somewhere in the 15-17 range
She has attributed various ages to herself on different social network sites so its unclear as to age.

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:40

Oh and there's nothing that would hint at unwillingness
There's photos of her with the same guy from throughout the day cropping up so it appears they were together in some sense
As to his and her alcohol or drug intake that's anyone's guess but it would be nothing more than a guess to start making those assumptions.

Boosterseat · 19/08/2013 15:42

I still cannot for the life of me figure out why people would distribute an image of a girl who is more than likely under 18 engaging in a sexual act.

Oh well, its just "banter" Hmm

Are you going to report the image mayorquimby?

YoniTime · 19/08/2013 15:45

You must be very detached from your body and shameless if you manage to stand up and do a thumbs up at other people while having your sexual organ stimulated. Couldn't have been very good.

I have of course no idea about what sort of relationship he and the girl had and what happened. But I'm getting a "lol imgeting my dik suked by a lowly gurl highfive bros" vibe from it. Or they were caught drunk having sex and his response was to use humour.

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:49

Not sure who is report it too. It was trending on twitter last night when there was no mention of her age and they seem to have reacted since then.

Certainly not a case of being caught, it's in the middle of a crowded area. It looks like the entrance or exit to a toilet with people walking past so I presume a similar about of people would have been there when they started.

FreyaSnow · 19/08/2013 17:43

The photos are being investigated by the police now. They haven't stated her age but they have said she is at school.

This is again the issue of sexual images of real people. You don't know that the person you are viewing the images of is an adult, that they are capable of consenting or that they did consent. The assumption that the images are legal is just that, an assumption.

OctopusPete8 · 19/08/2013 19:59

I have seen the pic, it isn 't like a teen couple in throws of passion , this lad is topless with his shorts down, and she has his ahem in her mouth and actually looking at people walking past in a very public area, whilst half in her mouth its fucking grim tbh,
I feel more sorry for the ppl who had to witness it.
I think their parents need to talk to both of them about how sex acts in public are illegal!!!! that was a very public display.

FreyaSnow · 19/08/2013 21:12

Whether or not either or both of the people have committed an offence at the time, that doesn't change the legality of sexual images of people who are not considered capable of consent.

working9while5 · 19/08/2013 21:25

I've unfortunately seen it. I think there's a lot of predictable scarlet-lettering of her but it's disturbing either way. It is broad daylight and exhibitionist by both parties. I'd be deeply ashamed and worried if either my son or daughter were in this. Allegedly the upload was done by a female friend and given there are a number of photos of very public displays of different sexual acts it seems horrifyingly staged. Very worrying to see any young people involved in this and very worrying how it has done the rounds in adult groups of both sexes. I was confronted by it in a group of other mothers ffs. It's really disturbing.

WhentheRed · 19/08/2013 21:29

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KRITIQ · 19/08/2013 22:44

If it is found following investigations that the young woman is below the age of consent that there will be charges laid against several of those who have possessed and distributed the image. Doesn't matter whether they were involved in creating the image, whether they were there or whether they "innocently" Hmm viewed and passed the link/image to someone else. It would be easy enough to find the digital traces on computers and portable devices, providing the evidence needed to press charges. I think it will only be when a big chunk of folks get their collars felt for things like this will people start to think twice about viewing and sharing them.

Octopus, there was no need for your graphic description of the image either.

Will there be a knock at your door? Who knows.

PeriodMath · 20/08/2013 01:11

Aren't they both behaving in a pretty disgusting way?

working9while5 · 20/08/2013 08:56

Oh get a grip Kritiq. Describing something that went viral isn't illegal whether you agree with it being described or not.

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FrigginRexManningDay · 20/08/2013 08:57

KRIQ the age of consent is 17 in Ireland so by all probability she is underage. Her name was also revealed on twitter. Its all on her,her life is being ruined,not the boys in the photos,she will be the one this will follow.
Facebook remove photos of babies being breastfed and yet it took hundreds of reports and two days to remove these photos.
I remember some years ago photos of Jamie Lynn Spears breastfeeding were published and there was uproar as she was only 16 and underage. And then we have a girl giving oral sex and its fine to tweet and reweet and make pages about her. Breastfeeding to most men isn't sexual or provocate. To me it sounds like if a photo is appealing to men it is fine,if a photo of breasts being stuck out and nipples hard appeals that's fine,but put a baby on thoses breasts feeding its not fine.
Twitter and Facebook had the power to stop the distribution of the photo. They didn't.

Do I make sense?

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OctopusPete8 · 20/08/2013 12:27

Sorry if my description offended anyone ,

I * certain words so I don't see how its that graphic, I was trying to describe it was v. much a display.
Not much having a thread of discussion if most people don't know what it looks like.
If that warrants me for arrest Kritiq then about 60 percent of the interwebs will be arrested then will they? which as we all know is v. tame compared to outsiders.

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