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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dustin Hoffman on being beautiful enough

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MyHumpsMyLovelyBabyBumps · 09/07/2013 15:23

www.upworthy.com/dustin-hoffman-breaks-down-crying-explaining-something-that-every-woman-sadly-already-experienced-3?c=gt1

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Zyn · 12/07/2013 17:22

Are you my friend!? on her fortieth, I almost got upset because we were discussing feminism and she said there was no need for it. "women are equal now". This from a friend from a wealthy family whose parents stroked her paw all through university and then she met and married a man with a similar background. They both work and earn big salaries because childcare is a relatively minor expense for them. I should have asked if her clearner or her childminder also thought that women were equal now,but I stopped myself thank god. It was her birthday, and I do love her really, but her privilege has made her blind to some of the more depressing parts of life as an uneducated woman with no support

Zyn · 12/07/2013 17:25

Stiffybling, I agree with what you say, it's not the same. Women are more aware of where they fall on the looks food chain. Sorry if that sounds really cynical but I believe it.

Zyn · 12/07/2013 17:30

Quangle yes, exactly, how could a woman not know this. It's made clear to her every day since birth. I agree. Unattractive men feel an anger toward ordinary women that unatractive women do not feel towards ordinary men.

CiscoKid · 12/07/2013 18:27

' Unattractive men feel an anger toward ordinary women that unatractive women do not feel towards ordinary men.'

Unless you have been both genders, or have scientific proof, then that is just supposition. Also, does it refer to all unattractive men? Just the real mingers, or those who score less that 5 out of 10 on the Brad scale? Can you tell by looking at a man what his level of anger is? If one woman rates me as a 7/10, and another one as 4/10, who's projected level of anger do I feel?

LeBFG · 12/07/2013 18:38

Dervel, when I have those sorts of conversations with my husband, I have to do a lot of explaining sometimes to get over to him what it's like to be a woman. It isn't obvious to him that little things, like whether someone assumes you're interested in keeping the house clean or love lil babies and such, to bigger things like employment/live choices and sexual behaviour (like being discussed here, and worse), add up to what can only be described of as oppressive sexism. I don't think he feels too guilty though about past behaviour Blush - that's just him. But it has (and does continue) changed how he sees/analyses things now. It's interesting to watch. It's also an interesting experiment, to step into the shoes of the other sex.

Dervel · 12/07/2013 18:42

It is always worthwhile to see things from more perspectives than just your own, and I'm with Socrates in an unexamined life is not worth living.

kim147 · 12/07/2013 18:51

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