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The invisible men project

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ArmyOfPenguins · 06/05/2013 22:45

I think it's important that the buyers' choices in prostitution are highlighted and shared. This project was linked to on FB. Thoughts? I think it's a great idea.

the-invisible-men.tumblr.com/

OP posts:
Sunnywithshowers · 19/05/2013 17:12

How interesting that a 'happily married man' takes an interest in such threads.

arsenaltilidie · 19/05/2013 18:22

Dark this is my exact post
^Don't think the guy has done anything wrong really.
Unless he's an amazing liar, his story sounds plausible.
I can imagine since they entered her house there was obvious signs of sex work. Then him and his apprentice debating whether she is a sex worker or not and googling her area.
A bit stupid.. Yes.
LTB based on that.. No
Maybe OP just learn to trust your DP and stop bringing past relationship's baggage with you. It does not benefit anyone at all.
Yes this man can hurt you the most regardless of how you try to protect your heart.
Just enjoy your relationship and believe in yourself. If he cheats yes you will be hurt but you will leave and life will go on.^

They had been together for 5 years with absolutely no signs of abuse etc. She asked him and he replied straight away (no sign of lying).
So either she could stress herself or either trust his explanation and move on.

Believe it or not I am happily married. My views on the prostitution are my views. I have read every argument and the rhetoric/ smart ass comments made and I'm still not convinced. No one has shown any evidence other than the normal "you must be a punter.. how would you feel... etc BS"

Darkesteyes · 19/05/2013 18:34

"In other threads you have been telling women to get over their trust issues when they've found their husbands have been on Adultwork looking for prostitutes

Not necessarily a punter no but certainly a mysogynist who thinks of women as lesser beings who should just "put up and shut up" with their husbands trawling sites like Adultwork.

Bunnylion · 19/05/2013 18:50

I think everyone is well aware of your views by now arsenaltilidie since you've repeated the same one, over and over again, on this thread.

Others do understand you views but don't necessarily agree with you. Such is life but you will get over this one day.

AnyFucker · 19/05/2013 18:58

arsenal on the thread you are talking about the two blokes never entered the woman's house

they happened to be working nearly and fancied she "looked like a prozzie" so decided to look her up

like you do

stop misrepresenting that thread, and stop misrepresenting yourself

you were asked at the beginning of this one what your vested interest was, and you have not convinced anyone with your "I'm a family man that doesn't use the sex industry, I just want the women to take some blame too" disingenuous stance

Your utter horror and massive defensive over reaction at anyone questioning that your own dc's might ever be a target for predatory men was a revelation and I haven't changed my mind since

I doubt anyone else has either

AnyFucker · 19/05/2013 18:58

*nearby

FloraFox · 19/05/2013 20:14

That advice is appalling arsenal and te fact you have posted it here because you think it exculpates you indicates how deep your sexist beliefs run and how much they colour your thinking.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 19/05/2013 20:35

Punter 19 is just as bad.

vile bastards definitely. They're all vile bastards - anyone that will use another human being like this, then rate then on an online board like this, is a vile bastard.

arsenaltilidie · 19/05/2013 20:53

Yes Anyfucker apparently I hate women Hmm

Flora another one of your psychological analysis, sorry but you talk so much shite.

BasilBabyEater · 19/05/2013 20:57

Yep, vile bastards definitely in the plural.

AnyFucker · 19/05/2013 21:08

arsenal I never said you hate women

but if the cap fits

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 19/05/2013 21:28

I wouldn't say arsenal hates women - just thinks they are lesser beings than him, that's all. Lesser beings - so it doesn't matter what job they end up doing. As long as its not his children that end up doing it, eh?

AnyFucker · 19/05/2013 21:32

there is a difference between hating women in general

and having the mindset that it's A-ok for some women to work in the sex industry and totally like shocking and insulting for anyone to suggest that someone close to him might consider it....

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 19/05/2013 21:49

Absolutely AF.

FloraFox · 20/05/2013 06:25

Flora another one of your psychological analysis, sorry but you talk so much shite.

From you? Pfft.

KatyDid02 · 20/05/2013 06:56

Pot and kettle springs to mind - with reference to arsenal not florafox of course.

minnehaha · 20/05/2013 22:20

Care to take on board the view of someone who has been a 'sex worker' for the best part of the last 20 years? In all that time I have yet to meet a woman who is in the industry against her will. That which is alien to what seems the majority of you on here, is not alien or abusive to just as many outside 'your' world.
To those who claim to know what a prostitute's life is like - by the very nature of the industry, you are not going to meet the vast majority of women who do this covertly because they want to keep it a SECRET. Not too hard to understand surely?
The condemnation of prostitutes increases the likelihood of violence by the hands of the few shitty dangerous men who may have a mind to attack us because society as a whole sees us as an underclass.

YoniTime · 20/05/2013 22:28

Read the thread. It's condemning shitty abusive men who are punters not the prostitutes.

BasilBabyEater · 20/05/2013 22:39

This thread doesn't condemn prostituted women.

It condemns punters.

minnehaha · 20/05/2013 22:46

I have read the thread. I would not feel in a position to comment unless I had. I have, in twenty years experience, had no more than a handful of men who might, by a stretch of possibility, be described as abusive in his behaviour toward me. Even then, I'm unsure of your definition of 'abusive'.To me, abuse is something that physically or mentally hurts. The men who display any hint of a bad attitude (one that is fostered by the opinions on here in my view) don't see me for dust.
And NO, I was not abused, am not a druggie etc., etc. ad finitum. Nor were/are my friends.

minnehaha · 20/05/2013 22:49

I take exception to being called 'prostituted'....no-one does any such thing!

YoniTime · 20/05/2013 22:54

The title and OP should give you a hint of what the thread is about. These men are out there and they're harming women. It's a problem.

BasilBabyEater · 20/05/2013 22:55

I'm not sure I agree with your description of abusive. Abuse isn't defined solely by the response of the target of abuse. If a man shouts insults out of his car window at me, it causes me no physical or emotional pain at all - but I think it's still abusive, regardless of my feelings (or lack of them).

AnyFucker · 20/05/2013 23:15

Minnehaha, do you think the field reports on P'net are made up then ?

If so, by whom ?

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