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sexual advances - the big question

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BramshawHill · 03/03/2013 10:47

BBC the big question is currently discussing whether sexual advances should be accepted as a part of life.

The first speaker has said it weakens men and women if women complain about it every time, and that it IS a part of life.

Anyone else watching? Thoughts?

First time posting, hello btw!

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PromQueenWithin · 10/03/2013 22:17

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Pan · 10/03/2013 22:21

I wish it hadn't all happened. Coward that I am.Grin

Hullygully · 10/03/2013 22:23

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Pan · 10/03/2013 22:28

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 22:29

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Pan · 10/03/2013 22:30

Well, yes Prom, that would be good to do. I've added to the thread.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 22:32

pan, she was on the thread days before you. She's not following anything.

And I really doubt anyone else wants to read this. It is so bloody tedious.

Hullygully · 10/03/2013 22:32

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Hullygully · 10/03/2013 22:33

2 sick kids, excuse me if I don't hang around to follow you.

Pan · 10/03/2013 22:34

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Pan · 10/03/2013 22:38

But Hully, this thread isn't the first, is it? Can we agree to avoid each other?
Yes we are grown ups, and this stuff is massively not grown up.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 22:39

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Pan · 10/03/2013 22:39
Pan · 10/03/2013 22:41

LRD - FFS it isn't me bringing it up. And yes I have reported this shit. Repeatedly. Lordy.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 22:44

Can we get back to the subject?

I was wondering - has anyone successfully managed to get someone to admit they did make a sexual advance in these situations? I'm realizing I have never actually reported anything sexual that's happened. Blush I can think of some I wish I had - but I didn't, mostly because they weren't 'serious enough'. I have argued quite a lot with men in a non-work setting, but that's all.

Pan · 10/03/2013 22:49

Yes,LRD as in mediator capacity, though not immediatly with someone who has offended against me, as a man. fwiw

PromQueenWithin · 10/03/2013 22:57

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 23:02

Yes, I think that's an issue, prom.

PromQueenWithin · 10/03/2013 23:08

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FastidiaBlueberry · 10/03/2013 23:12

Yep, women know - or assume - that the men will be valued more highly than them.

They're usually right.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 23:15

That's really depressing, prom. I certainly don't blame women, either (I hope I didn't imply that).

I think, psychologically, it's very difficult to put yourself in what you know will probably be a confrontational situation when you've just been in that position, too - because your natural instinct is to want to shrink away, and that includes shrinking away from the confrontation.

Pan · 10/03/2013 23:22

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VerySmallSqueak · 10/03/2013 23:34

I have made a report of sexual harassment in the workplace,quite a few years ago. Without wishing to go into any detail,I had already left the workplace prior to making the report.
I am not sure I would have felt as able to make the report whilst remaining in the workplace.

PromQueenWithin · 11/03/2013 00:06

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