sexual advances - the big question

[BramshawHill]

BBC the big question is currently discussing whether sexual advances should be accepted as a part of life.

The first speaker has said it weakens men and women if women complain about it every time, and that it IS a part of life.

Anyone else watching? Thoughts?

First time posting, hello btw!

Lazzer/Dazzer - I don't think either of you get out much at all. To even suggest the scale or impacts of unwarranted sexual advances between the sexes is anything like comparable is so risible it's difficult to know where to begin with.

Laz - you refer to the 'professional' world - I'd spent x years as a rep on a 'professionals' assistance panel. Re unwanted sexual advances claims, we had one case of a woman, who had waaay to much to drink on a night out and grabbed a male colleagues buttocks. By the time we saw her she was v sober and utterly ashamed. Contrast with numerous (can't recall the exact number) of men over the years who behaved v poorly, but needed 'mediation' to understand the impacts of their actions.

fwiw, I am somehow doubting your City career ended by being a 'nice guy'.

Pazzer,

FWIW, you know nothing about me and I know nothing about you.

I never claimed it ended specifically to do with being a "nice guy" and it did not end because of my angelic defence of repressed females. As I said in my post, it ended because I was better at managing down than managing up and I supported my team in general. One very small aspect of that was sexual politics (for want of a better word). Don't worry, I am not after your title of the male feminist's feminist on these threads!

"I am not after your title of the male feminist's feminist on these threads!"
Excuse me. Just dabbing away the tears of mirth after that line.

larry I do apologise for misusing your nn. It was rude. And your use of 'managing down/up' is useful - I'm struggling with that at the mo. - I like what I do, leading a team, and 'managing up' means moving away from that into the world of budgets, which I am much less easy about. IF this is what you mean?

but to be honest I do know a bit about you, from what you post over the years. From my POV much of the sentiment is fine, and then you 'undermine' it with words that are inconsistent with the sentiment, iyswim. eg re sexual advances on this thread? That is imho of course.

But returning to the matter in hand, can you now indicate that the scale and incidence of unwanted sexual advances between the sexes is nothing like comparable, and 'hands on knees' at dinner parties is quite small beer in the larger world of sexual assaults and fears thereof?

Promqueen,

Yep, women and men do seem to have subtly different posting styles, agreed. However, with the exception of an honourable few (you included), I don't notice many "yes, I see your point of view" from women on this particular area, either.

Interesting idea for a thread, though.

Yes quite right Larry.

You're catching on.

There have been times I've conceded points to sensible people with good arguments.

But astonishingly, I'm not going to spend Mother's Day looking for them. And tbh I wouldn't spend any other day looking for them either. You're welcome to though, of course.

sorry Prom, missed your ref. to mistaking me as a female poster. There's the odd debate from time to time as to whether men should make it plain in the nn their sex, but it usually ends in a majority of 'no need', for various reasons.
There's a few female posters who I thought were male from their posts and style, so after a while it gets a bit and it all usually comes out anyways. hth

No, go for it Prom! I'm sure it will meander along very quietly..