a question for the men here

[Mitchy1nge]

what makes you think you have anything of real value to bring to discussions about women's experiences and expectations?

obviously some men can make interesting contributions (although those sorts of men don't often announce themselves here) to some discussions but generally, on the whole, everything everywhere else is already pretty saturated in Male Voice so was just wondering where you got the idea from

convenient to just be too lofty to engage

utter bollocks

LRD - I didn't say it was 'end of discussion'. You appear to have made that up?

Fuck me, I am not often "good cop" in this subsection, it has to be noted

Right.

So there is no point pulling up misogynists on their misogyny because they might call you a misogynist name/think something misogynistic about you?

Tell Me About It. And cry me a fucking river whilst you are doing it.

(Hi beach :) am ok)

not speaking up is cowardly

the end

Just read a post by DadDancer about prostitution and porn which included an offensive (to me) part about 15 year old Eastern European girls. I know you were quoting somebody else, but in what universe is it acceptable to watch 15 year old girls? You say men aren't involved in the porn you watch, but by inference underage girls are.

Honestly, if I were you I'd keep my head down a while.

Now to read the rest of the thread.

Good stuff Mitchy

Pan, if the wanker man poster wanders off the board, then good.

yt? beer

weird porn man knows u are all on the thread and knows you all say nothing
and you think he's going to think, they are too lofty to engage with me and waste their keystrokes

NO he thinks, yeah they all agree and admire me for having the balls to say it like it is

ffffffs

Oh, before I do, a post by Tortoise about not living somebody elses life rang true with me. It was a brilliant point put way better than I ever could.

This time I am off to catch up, honest. :)

yes Beach, tho' that isn't what I posted at all. But read what you wish to, if it makes you feel better? I'd indicated that for some posters, and DD is one of them, positing arguments, for me, will be without effect.

No, pan, that was me querying why you were posting the way you were posting.

Accusing me of lying is not great, really, is it?

Feel free to explain why you keep pointing out you've justified your lack of response when we can all see you have - because it's almost as if you think you're making some kind of relevant point, instead of derailing everyone else's attempts to explain to you why they disagree.

Not so difficult, Nicholas, huh ?

It would be great if the regular normal blokes on MN would say to the trolling twats that their views are not welcome, and it's not just a bunch of strident women complaining, but the male MN regulars as well. I think that would be a really important bit of solidarity.

And bollocks to the fact that there is no point engaging. Beta I respect you very much for the many political debates had on here (especially at election time) - you didn't think that there was no point in engaging with the lefties, even though you knew that there was zero chance of us changing our mind and saying 'oh yes that Osborne chap looks quite an intelligent type, let's give him a chance'. So yes LapdancerLover or whatever he is called will not change his mind, but so what? Why not state your opinion?

that should have said yy beer
Damn phone

That's a good comparison, getorf. The political debates seem to involve lots of posters with fairly entrenched positions, don't they?

Speaking up, excellently demonstrated by nickteacosy, have a

it's the pussywhipped thing, gerrof

they want to be BSDs

You go on any daft thread where someone says crap like 'men can't see mess, what are they like' or something, LOTS of women will call them out on it and say don't bloody treat men like idiots.

So cos he might call you a misogynistic name there is no point pointing out that he is a wanker and his wank is not welcome because he might just go away? And that is a problem?

I'm afraid this is getting too convoluted for my ladybrain.

I am completely aware that every time I pull someone up like DD, it will not change their viewpoint

but it's not their thoughts I give one shit about

if men tell him to fuck off too, he will slink off with his pathetic cock between his legs

when women tell him to and men stand by, his pathetic cock grows

that's your male privilege in action right there, that is

Thank you for speaking up, NicholasTeakozy.