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What are you watching & reading? Will you do the Beshdel Test on it?

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Seabright · 24/01/2013 23:32

I have been trying to apply the Beshdel Test to what I've been watching lately.

The wiki entry in the link above explains more, but basically to pass the Beshdel Test a work of fiction must have:

A) At least two female characters
B) Who Talk to each other
C) About something other than a man

This evening I have watched:

  1. Rizzoli & Isles - pass, just
  2. The Good Wife - pass


And I'm reading an Ian Rankin novel at the moment (yes, my choice of tv and books is pretty limited - crime & murder!) which so far fails, but I'm only part way through.
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Jessepinkman · 25/01/2013 22:02

I have been reading Dickens for the last five months. They would all pass.
I'm going to complete Dickens, then I would like to read Moll Flanders.

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Seabright · 25/01/2013 22:05

New Tricks - failed
QI - so far no female panelists

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SanityClause · 25/01/2013 22:06

I'm reading this which doesn't pass!

It's fascinating, reading, though!

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Seabright · 25/01/2013 22:06

ArbitaryUsername - I love American Restoration. American O
Pickets fails too, although I love Danielle.

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Seabright · 25/01/2013 22:08

American Pickers, even. Grrr!

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ArbitraryUsername · 25/01/2013 22:13

I love American pickers too. They've got a female manager for the second store now. Danielle was talking to her about inventory and stuff in one of the episodes, so it might be moving towards the occasional pass.

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MousyMouse · 25/01/2013 22:16

a cathy reichs novel definitely passes (and very enjoyable)

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MousyMouse · 25/01/2013 22:19

and of course mumsnet. :)

I am so very glad that this place exists, a real eyeopener on soooooooooo many levels.

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TooMuchRain · 25/01/2013 22:21

Silver Linings Playbook - fail (but has two great actresses and is pretty fab)

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ouryve · 25/01/2013 22:32

Currently watching something trite on channel 4. Reading 2 books. One on Pathological demand avoidance, so doesn't apply. The other is Terry Pratchett's The Reaper Man. Men, Women and Undead. It makes the application of the test a little more complex. I'm only about 1/3 of the way through and so far, it fails, since the two female characters haven't met. I do find that many of Pratchett's female characters really have their heads screwed on, though.

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ouryve · 25/01/2013 22:44

Actually - there's a 3rd female character who appeared, briefly, married to an undead man. She acts undead and moves in undead circles to please him. Being Pratchett, though, the purpose of the character really clearly portrayed her situation as rather ridiculous as opposed to desirable.

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Greythorne · 25/01/2013 22:52

I am watching an old episode of ER. It passes multiply!

Carrie and Hathaway discuss Hathaway going to Med School.

Doyle and Hathaway discuss their professional rivalry.

Jeannie discusses Suicide with a patient with HIV.

Hathaway and Haleh talk about her being a nurse.

Multiple pass. I think ER would pass 7 out of 10 episodes. Will check and report back.

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Seabright · 25/01/2013 22:58

Newsnight (I know it's not fiction): Pass-o-Rama!

Emily Maitiss hosting, two female experts & 1 male political, who Emily (rightly) seems to think is a pollock. Now seeing a female Malian musician.

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ouryve · 25/01/2013 23:20

Newsnight sometimes fails drastically, though. There's been times I've turned on and a topic which affects men and women equally is being discussed by a panel of predominantly grey haired men.

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joanofarchitrave · 27/01/2013 00:16

Diega I was thinking about Mantel's work and this thread last night, and was suprised that I didn't think Greater Safety or Wolf Hall would pass. I think Beyond Black would probably pass, but (despite the fact I thought it was amazing) have no intention of reading it again so can't be sure. I wonder, though.

How many Booker winners pass...?

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CaseyShraeger · 27/01/2013 00:38

Tucker and Dave vs Evil passes.

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FrothyDragon · 27/01/2013 20:41

Reading The Man In The Iron Mask, by Alexandre Dumas. Fails miserably.

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fluffywhitekittens · 27/01/2013 20:46

Watching "Fringe". Pass

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SucksToBeMe · 27/01/2013 20:49

Bill Bryson. A short history in nearly everything. Fail

Telly is switched off as I'm trying to get DS to bed. Fail

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EduCated · 27/01/2013 20:49

Watching Call the Midwife. Fairly easy pass.

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Rufus43 · 27/01/2013 21:11

Watching a film called Just my luck.... With so far lots of women in successful careers and not talking about men ( although that is about to change as it's a rom com). Reading David Starkeys Six Wives, not sure if that works!

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LineRunner · 27/01/2013 21:14

Conan Doyle's A Study in Scarlet. Failing so far.

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sayanything · 27/01/2013 21:15

I'm watching the first season of The Killing - so far, it passes. I'm trying to read Elizabeth George's latest and I think it passes, but I keep falling asleep every couple of pages, so don't quote me on this one.

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