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What are you watching & reading? Will you do the Beshdel Test on it?

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Seabright · 24/01/2013 23:32

I have been trying to apply the Beshdel Test to what I've been watching lately.

The wiki entry in the link above explains more, but basically to pass the Beshdel Test a work of fiction must have:

A) At least two female characters
B) Who Talk to each other
C) About something other than a man

This evening I have watched:

  1. Rizzoli & Isles - pass, just
  2. The Good Wife - pass


And I'm reading an Ian Rankin novel at the moment (yes, my choice of tv and books is pretty limited - crime & murder!) which so far fails, but I'm only part way through.
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LeucanTheMopsis · 16/02/2013 18:26

Spooks. Episode mumble of series mumble. Passed with bells on.
Wodehouse (Company for Henry). Failed with bells on.

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sydlexic · 15/02/2013 23:28

I heard of the Bechdel test a couple of weeks ago and have been thinking about it. Sadly the only programme that passed was silent witness. It really makes you think.

Love big bang theory but that was a massive fail.

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Schooldidi · 15/02/2013 23:11

The walking dead - passed.

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Trills · 15/02/2013 22:49

Mean Girls mainly has women talking to each other about other women rather than about men.

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13Iggis · 15/02/2013 22:46

A re-run of detective series Vera - passed.

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Schooldidi · 15/02/2013 22:42

I don't. I hope it's soon.

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Trills · 15/02/2013 22:42

I really enjoyed that book - do you know when the third one will be out?

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Schooldidi · 15/02/2013 20:57

I'm reading A wise man's fear by Patrick Rothfuss. It passes, there aren't many female charachters who meet each other but when they do they talk about magic or their studies rather than a man usually.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 15/02/2013 20:35

James has just got to the centre of the Giant Peach and met the insects.

The text goes something like, "The Spider stretched her legs (for she was a female Spider)..." needless to say, Roald Dahl doesn't specify that the Grasshopper is male...

It is a pass though, as the two Aunts talk about eating the Peach.

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tangledupinpoo · 15/02/2013 16:55

Reading The House of Sleep at the moment. Not far through it but so far, it just passes.

Watched the Iron Lady last night and that barely passed, surprisingly. There was quite a lot of MT talking to Carole, but mostly about missing Denis. Some of it must have been about what she was going to wear that night, or going to buy milk.

My DH used to think me over-earnest changing half the animals' genders in Dear Zoo. Seriously, they're all male!

Can't even articulate the level of fail of the Godfather films and Apocalypse Now.

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ThePathanKhansAmnesiac · 15/02/2013 16:11

I,m watching the Golden Compass, thats a pass i think, isn,t it?.

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Trills · 15/02/2013 15:59

There's a conversation between Cosette and Mme Thernardier along the lines of "work harder, go get water", "I'm scared and I don't want to". So that's technically a pass.

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AmandaPayne · 15/02/2013 15:49

I think it fails too. The bully Fantine essentially about a man - the whole conversation is about her sexual behaviour. Eponine and Collette never speak, which is a bit chance missed IMO.

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msrisotto · 15/02/2013 15:44

Les Miserables...I think it fails? I know Fantine is bullied out of the factory where she was working by women who were bullying/talking to her but I don't think they actually had names.....

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Melpomene · 15/02/2013 15:37

Just saw Wreck-it Ralph at the cinema. It passed the test on the basis of two scenes - one scene where some girl video game characters are discussing a go kart race (although this does involve bullying), and a second happier discussion at the end involving the same group of girls.

Two of the main four characters in the film are female - they play a more significant role in the film than I expected from watching the trailer. They don't really ever talk to each other, but both are presented as feisty, active and resourceful.

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Sunnywithshowers · 10/02/2013 23:17

I'm watching Piranha.

Epic fail on all counts.

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AmandaPayne · 10/02/2013 22:20

I have already browsed the outfits (oh the shame Blush). I was pleased to see quite a few women actually wearing coats on the red carpet. Small improvements and all that.

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EduCated · 10/02/2013 21:17

Not quite right for the test, but am watching the BAFTAs. Will be interesting to see how many women present as compared to men.

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FrameyMcFrame · 10/02/2013 20:54

Just watching Call the Midwife with DD. It does pass but women are beaten up and humiliated, another is sexually abused on a cargo ship by the sailors. I know it's set in the past but it's not really family viewing

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kerala · 07/02/2013 16:57

Zero Dark Thirty passes frequent scenes of 2 women discussing their work.

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CheerfulYank · 07/02/2013 15:06

I watched 27 Dresses last night...it passed.

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