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I just want to cry.

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TotoroOnTheCatBus · 19/10/2012 21:49

I am so sick of this.. I moved back to America and I feel like I've walked in to the dark ages regarding women's rights..It wasn't like this 10 years ago..what has happened? Women who have been really raped can't get pregnant... Pregnancy is NEVER dangerous for women :( I hate it.. I am so angry

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/joe-walsh-abortion-exception_n_1983701.html

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TotoroOnTheCatBus · 19/10/2012 21:49

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/joe-walsh-abortion-exception_n_1983701.html

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TotoroOnTheCatBus · 19/10/2012 21:50

Sorry I read this just before reading the "should gps be able to opt out of MAP and abortions" thread.. I just want to remind people.. that it's ll a slippery slope. You let them get away with this..and look what happens

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grimbletart · 19/10/2012 22:21

What is the matter with these American pro-lifer politicians that they are so ignorant, so stupid, so uneducated?

Can someone not tell them that they don't have a clue what they are talking about.

Can someone not show them maternal death and morbidity statistics.

What the hell is wrong with them?

AlreadyScone · 19/10/2012 22:23

this reminds me of a cartoon I saw recently... it simply said "You're pro-life... but you're against universal healthcare?!"

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 19/10/2012 23:04

Oh god. I will weep with you.

Joe Walsh, if you make abortion illegal, women will have unsafe abortions and many will be seriously harmed or will die. There's a threat to the life of the mother. If you force a woman already desperate through depression, abusive relationship, whatever to continue with a pregnancy, she may commit suicide. There's another threat to the life of the mother.

Fucker.

BettySuarez · 19/10/2012 23:44

It's just shocking - we came very close to having to relocate to California but have recently managed to avoid it.

Thank fuck for that because I wouldn't be able to stay more than 5 mins in the US if Romney gets in.

The only ray of hope is that the majority of comments were left by people who thought he was a first class tit

KRITIQ · 20/10/2012 07:04

I'm only in the US now for a few days visiting family and my heart sinks each time I turn on the TV or radio. Political commercials are ghastly. In one his evening, a woman candidate says she's a pro life mother and rape survivor. She says she refused MAP after her rape. Well, that was her choice, bully for her. But trying to eliminate choice for or others?

I'm so glad this is no longer home for me, but I fear for the women here, the minority ethnic Americans, the poor Americans, etc. I still hope common sense will prevail.

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TotoroOnTheCatBus · 20/10/2012 12:30

She says she refused MAP after her rape. Well, that was her choice, bully for her. But trying to eliminate choice for or others?

Nice for her.. guessing she probably didn't get pregnant either.. or she would have changed her view point.

I really don't know what's happening.. I don't remeber things being like this when I was younger. We've gone backwards..and I can't see why.

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TerrariaMum · 20/10/2012 17:38

Like KRITIQ, the US is no longer my home and I fear for the women there the more BS I hear spouted. Totoro (love the name btw), I wonder if it isn't that it wasn't there when we were younger(I'm 31 now), but we just didn't see it or it wasn't as blatant.

Blistory · 20/10/2012 18:34

I think it's part of the backlash to be honest. I'm beginning to think that the patriarchy does have a collective brain that's realised it's had to give way in terms of legal equality but is hanging on to social conventions and slowly clawing back the legal gains that women have achieved. And using the current fall in moral standards (wtf does that even mean) as the basis for these shitty, crappy, sexist attitudes. America, land of the free but only if you happen to have a penis attached to a white body.

grimbletart · 20/10/2012 19:15

Patriarchy and brain, Blistory? Now there's two words you wouldn't expect to find coupled together....

tribpot · 20/10/2012 19:32

And yet at the same time I think Melinda Gates has been putting a pretty controversial message out about women's health around the world, i.e. we intend to make contraception and education available. It's up to women what they choose to do with this. (I realise she's hardly first to say such things but I will still surprised, frankly, to hear an American woman voicing opinions which seem out of step with prevailing voices in her own country, let alone [other] parts of the world controlled by the religious patriarchy).

And of course it is not just women's rights which are taking a beating. I cannot believe the campaign against Ellen Degeneres as a spokesperson for JC Penney (I actually thought this was a fab choice as an older woman, never mind a gay one!). Can you imagine anyone (moderately sensible) having a fit about Stephen Fry being the face of Marks and Sparks? It's ridiculous.

And yet - the era of Obama. From this distance the country seems highly polarised and certainly gains which had been made are being lost.

MmeLindor · 20/10/2012 19:44

It is very depressing, and I fear for women around the world if the unthinkable happens, and Romney is the next president.

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Melinda Gates really went out a limb with her campaign. It is a very personal campaign for her, and she has been highly criticised in US for it. And elsewhere for leaving abortion out of the campaign, which I think was unfair since even promoting contraception is a big thing in US nowadays.

BettySuarez · 20/10/2012 20:01

We were on the verge on relocating but seriously considering leaving our daughters (twins aged 16) here in UK. Partly for educational reasons but also in part due to the backward and sexist attitudes that seem to be prevalent in the States.

It is so frightening that a country so powerful and influential can even contemplate heading in this direction.

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TotoroOnTheCatBus · 20/10/2012 20:32

terriamum I am nearly 30..so same as you in age. I really don't think it was as bad. I feel like the tea party have made insanity/racism/sexism/homophobia fashionable again.. :(

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MmeLindor · 20/10/2012 23:17

I'd certainly think twice about relocating to US atm. It's scary to think how women's rights are being eradicated.

TennisFan42 · 24/10/2012 09:43

This is the latest idiotic statement from the Republicans on this issue reut.rs/WHWytR

TennisFan42 · 24/10/2012 09:44

This is the latest idiotic statement from the Republicans on this issue reut.rs/WHWytR

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 24/10/2012 09:48

Ugh, how horrible.

Does anyone know if female republican politicians are coming out with quite this level of crap?

OneMoreChap · 24/10/2012 10:24

Certainly Tea Party women are quite capable of this nonsense.

I mean, I quite approve of people being anti-abortion. I certainly wouldn't force them to have one.

I don't really get why they think their stance should affect other people.
Particularly not men inflicting their views on women...

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