Radfems and transsexuals – an outsider’s view

[NoviceProFemGuy]

I?ve been reading the recent threads discussing feminism and transgender, and pretty challenging I?ve found them too. As an outsider, though, I can?t help thinking a lot of the radfems? concerns aren?t, in reality, an issue when it comes to the practicalities of how men oppress women.

This is going to be a bit of a long post, so to save it all appearing at the top of subsequent pages (assuming there are any) I?ll put the meat of it in a separate post below.

Tut, dittany's not very ladylike, is she...

Must... conform... to patriarchal expectations of women...

are you doing it on purpose now?

And why is it only dittany who gets picked up on this stuff?

bloody hell, don't venture into AIBU; your head would implode.

AIBU ? i thought this was the hardcore section? AIBU is easy compared to here !

Stars - you're muddying stuff here - the diction used by the reporter wasn't/isn't in contention.( Lord knows there's enough sexual assault cases where standards are low). The vast vast majority of men will know that a sleeping woman can't give consent. This was never a reported defence, but that didn't stop your link thing.

dittany gets it because she hands it out, she treats other peoples sentiments with impunity, i have no sympathy for dittany.

I have agreed with the chair up to now,but your language needs to be a bit more spot on.
Offending is offending,whether stars is fragile, or not fragile in the slightest.
And the use of the word enveloping was inappropriate.

'dittany gets it because she hands it out, she treats other peoples sentiments with impunity, i have no sympathy for dittany'

Really? For someone whose first post was today you seem to know an awful lot about MN.

"I don't find them telling me how I can tackle the issue of abortion or FGM. This is all we expect of our male allies on MN. But we rarely, if ever, get it."

Why shouldn't men have an opinion on how to tackle abortion issues or FGM? If you have an interest in tackling something, then it's pretty normal to also develop ideas on how that's best achieved. Should a good male feminist just shut up and leave the women to do it all by themselves, just because he's got the wrong set of chromosomes?

enveloping was the terminogy used by the radical eminist in the link we were discussing!

was my first post today? i would do your research before posting BS

"This is all we expect of our male allies on MN. But we rarely, if ever, get it."

and who exactly are these male allies? It's no great lesson to learn that as a rhetoritician, as posters usually are here, it isn't best to generally 'distance' and 'mock' those people who would appear to be offering to be allies, albeit not very well explained. (as a non-feminist don't count me as an ally). This prob. goes for a lot of the rest of MN as well.

b) we take offense at different things. Men talking about "enveloping' in the context of a rape. Ugh. What can I say? I needed to express my disgust.

read, man quoting radical feminist's article linked to the thread

i have known you insult people dittany.

i dont care how foul your mouth is , you can say fuck all you like i dont care, it's just when you play all upset in the same sentence as though your sentiments can be so easily hurt even though you can hand it out so well.

Funnily enough I only searched the last 3 years. Thanks to your heads up I went back further.

3 posts on one 2007 thread.

So why not use your usual name to have a go at a poster you have a grudge against?

Easier to hide behind a ghost name?

2007? you must be joking, where are you getting this from?

i've been here for about 18 mouths under this name

in 2007 i diddnt even know about MN

what is wrong with you ditany ?
what part of
'I WAS QUOTING AN ARTICLE BY A RADICAL FEMINIST THAT WAS LINKED TO THE THREAD'
dont you understand?

I apologise. I was searching your name minus 'the'. You have indeed been around for 18 months. Mainly on FWR threads.

Chairman - I've just done a search - you have 124 posts it seems gonig basck about 6 months. All, bar 3-4 are in the Feminist section!

Are you a feminist groupie???

well, theres a thought out intelectual response wahey! well done,