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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Use of the term "hamburger" by sonographers to describe baby girl "bits"

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ahhhhhpushit · 23/02/2012 12:31

I've heard this term reported by mothers so many terms that it must by the term sonographers aee taught at sonographer school.

Anybody else feel uncomfortable by it?

Imagine it being said about a baby's bits once she'd been born!

Is it just me?

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AMumInScotland · 23/02/2012 12:36

I thought the proper term was "kebab" Grin

OneHandFlapping · 23/02/2012 12:39

I find it strange that genitals are referred to as food. Particularly a baby's for some reason. However, is it any worse than "meat and two vedge", "plums" etc for male sex organs?

pregnantpause · 23/02/2012 12:40

Its because of the shape on the scan! Not a derogaratory(sp?) term. It looks like three lines (ll) like that a bit, you can basically see the labia forming around the vulva. Boys bits are refered to as a 'leg' though theyre not all that well endowed!

TBE · 23/02/2012 12:41

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 13:57

Blergh. Why don't they just say "vulva"?

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 13:58

it's because of the shape, fgs. on the scan it looks like a hamburger if it's a girl.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 14:07

What it looks like is one thing. What it is is another.

Do sonographers say: "There's the hamburger - you're having a girl!" or do they say "See that shape there that looks like a hamburger? That tells us you're having a girl".

Personally, I would be uncomfortable if a sonographer used "hamburger" as a slang for a girl's genitalia instead of the correct anatomical terms, whatever it may look like on a scan. There seems to be at best discomfort about female genitalia and at worst revulsion. Unlike the glorifying that goes on about the male penis (and yes, I know there are many jokey terms for a penis too, but is it only me who detects a different feeling behind the way female genitals are referred to?)

worley · 23/02/2012 14:10

at sonographer school we're not taught to use the term hamburger to describe girls genitals. but trying to explain to the many parents who want to know what we are looking for and how we know, that's the easiest visual aid to use. some people cannot see the three lines even though we are pointing them out.
I've not heard if boys bits being called a third leg though.
of course once a baby is born it looks nothing like a hamburger so it wouldn't be described in that way.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 14:16

Thanks for clarifying, worley

4madboys · 23/02/2012 14:25

when i had a scan at 28wks with dd, (to check the sex as we didnt believe the 20wk scan) the sonographer showed us her 'girly bits' and said its the three lines 'that look like a hamburger' and they did tbf. obviously she didnt say thats what they were but just to show us clearly on the scan. tbh the whole thing just felt a bit wierd, looking at her private parts before she was born and in 3d felt a bit wrong somehow, i dont know why. interestingly dd obviousl didnt feel like co-operating and kept her hands over her face for the entire scan, so they didnt make us pay! which was nice and i STILL didnt believe that she was a girl until she was born and i coudl check for myself Blush

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 14:40

well maybe don't get anyone's knickers in a twist just yet, immaculada, because aaahhhhhpushit has only concluded that this is what people are saying based on what mothers (who are presumably not disgusted by their own genitalia) are saying.

RitaMorgan · 23/02/2012 14:42

Baby girl genitals look like a hamburger on a scan.

They don't look like a hamburger in real life.

Not seeing the issue.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 18:23

Indeed Aitch - I was agreeing with the OP that it would make me uncomfortable, but that was why I wanted to know if sonographers were using the term in a purely descriptive way when pointing out shapes on the scan or were using the term as a name for female genitalia. Which is what I infer the OP wanted to know as well.

Terms used for female genitalia are often loaded with meaning and implication beyond the anatomical, which is why I think it could be an issue to some of us more sensitive souls.

However, worley said in her experience "hamburger" is used as a description for the shape as seen on a scan not the genital area itself, in which case no, I don't think it is an issue.

ahhhhhpushit · 23/02/2012 19:27

Thanks for the replies everyone.

And also from a sonographer too :)

What do we all think about the term "beef curtains" ?

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LineRunner · 23/02/2012 19:31

A bit Viz.

Shallishanti · 23/02/2012 19:36

yuck

and sad too, that I hear it from women

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/02/2012 19:42

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ToothbrushThief · 23/02/2012 19:43

Sonographers use lemon shape and banana shape in relation to a serious neurological finding.

Better? Is it just hamburgers that offend?

I've never heard beef curtain. Yuk. Just yuk.

ToothbrushThief · 23/02/2012 19:44

where women's bodies are photographed being shoved in meat grinders. Confused never having seen hustler, my mind is a boggle

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 19:45

i imagine bananas would offend on here...

stewie you do realise that it looks like a hamburger? would veggie burger be better, it seems to be the pornographic use of mincers you have a problem with?

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 19:46

Why can't they just say the real words? 'Do you see those lines? That's the vulva of your baby girl.'

Why is ante-natal world so childishly metaphorical?

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 19:47

Tooth It's a Viz comic Profanasaurus term.

ToothbrushThief · 23/02/2012 19:48

Line runner -I never ever described it as a hamburger (or lemon/banana) but have seen these terms used frequently in books. My colleagues never used them. TBH whilst I agree with you I also think there are more serious issues to be offended over.

tralalala · 23/02/2012 19:53

I thinkit's quite funny.

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/02/2012 19:58

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