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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Use of the term "hamburger" by sonographers to describe baby girl "bits"

331 replies

ahhhhhpushit · 23/02/2012 12:31

I've heard this term reported by mothers so many terms that it must by the term sonographers aee taught at sonographer school.

Anybody else feel uncomfortable by it?

Imagine it being said about a baby's bits once she'd been born!

Is it just me?

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vezzie · 23/02/2012 21:37

I think I will go on all the baby naming threads now and rant "IT'S A PERFECTLY GOOD NAME IF YOU LIKE IT, IF YOU DON'T THEN DON'T CALL YOUR CHILD THAT, WHY EVEN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION?"

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 21:38

well of course. if they said 'there's her hamburger' i'd think the person was a farking idiot. but they don't say that, they're referring to 'the sign' rather than using it as a slang term for the genitals. (and i know that the OP came back and drip fed that they did, but i don't really believe it).

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 21:39

if you are referring to me, vezzie, i'm not saying it doesn't matter. i'm saying it doesn't exist and that the OP is predicated on a bogus line of enquiry. because in fact no one is referring to children's genitalia as hamburgers.

Beachcomber · 23/02/2012 21:39

I think it is the fact that;

Women are often reduced to the contents of their genitalia.

Women's are often reduced to pieces of meat.

Sonographers are probably mostly lovely people who are pressed for time and want to explain things in a way people can understand. They are, quite clearly, not tools of the patriarchy but just people doing their jobs.

It is still crass.

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 21:40

In ante-natal care, I would believe anything.

Beachcomber · 23/02/2012 21:42

Women are sorry.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 21:42

ye gods though beachcomber if there's one occasion where it's reasonable to 'reduce' someone to their genitalia it's during a GENDER scan... it's ALL about whether they can see a burger or a turtle, that's all it is. no-one's in a position to start chatting about how smart the kid is yet...

Bearcrumble · 23/02/2012 21:44

I went for a private scan in Harley St with Mr Maxwell - an Australian consultant who works at St Thomas' - and he described my DS's willy as a 'baseball bat'. In front of my mum as well.

I was pretty shocked. Mum and I checked with each other that we'd actually heard him correctly after we left.

SardineQueen · 23/02/2012 21:44

vezzie wasn't talking about you aitch

she was talking about the person who came on and announced that we should all stop talking about this immediately.

ChickensHaveNoLips · 23/02/2012 21:44

Ahem I've, er, looked at that Hustler link of the lady in the meat grinder and...I don't get it. I don't get what it's trying to say, or why it's infamous Would someone please enlighten me?

SardineQueen · 23/02/2012 21:45

i misread that as a badger or a turtle...

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 21:45

I just looked at some sonogram sites and they talk about the 'three white lines' being the 'hamburger sign'.

What's wrong with 'three white lines'?

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 21:46

what's wrong with hamburger?

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 21:47

I would find it easier to look for three white lines than to look for an alleged hamburger, practically speaking; so why the need to label a physical sign with a meat metaphor - for either sex?

It's just lazy and patronising. As so much ante-natal shit is.

IMHO.

SardineQueen · 23/02/2012 21:48

Upthread didn't someone say it was like the golden arches (mcd) but they didn't want to use a brand and started saying hamburger instead

so why not just "like the letter M"?

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 21:49

the whole scan is white lines on black, hamburger is a distinct shape to look out for. as it is in borked joints.

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/02/2012 21:50

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LineRunner · 23/02/2012 21:50

Indeed. An empirical description.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 21:50

Need an equivalent to "willie"....?

I rather like the MN preferred slang of "fanjo" myself.

Just as an aside.

Even so, I think I would raise eyebrows if a sonographer said "See that hamburger shape there...? That's her little fanjo...."

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 21:51

I think we can all look out for three white lines, or a letter M.

SardineQueen · 23/02/2012 21:52

I found a picture on google

I really don't think it's right to describe it as looking like a hamburger

<a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hamburger&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=Bi0ZcsbmY8u7cM:&imgrefurl=www.waterfootprint.org/%3Fpage%3Dfiles/productgallery%26product%3Dhamburger&docid=0x0G5JSjZngmIM&imgurl=www.waterfootprint.org/images/gallery/original/hamburger.jpg&w=400&h=400&ei=zbRGT7f9Gcj28QP_mvmLDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=317&vpy=169&dur=285&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=128&ty=135&sig=107566779655659111226&page=1&tbnh=133&tbnw=127&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 21:53

no, not the letter M. the golden arches. totally, totally different shape. who writes an M like the mcdonald's M? (not the MN font, that's for sure).

Beachcomber · 23/02/2012 21:53

Yes, Aitch, I understand that in a scan you might reduce someone to their genitalia. But surely that is a reason to be careful about the terminology you employ.

Gosh, I remember going for a 5 month scan with DD1, and DH and I saying we didn't want any clues on the sex. Only to have the sonogrpaher sniffily tell us that the point of the scan was to check if our baby had two kidneys and a properly functioning heart. Which was a bit unnecessary, but a good point nonetheless. (nonetheless and crass seem to be my key words for this thread) Grin.

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 21:53

Michael Douglas wanted that burger.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 21:53

lol sardine