In light of MNHQ's recent statement that the feminism section is in fact not a feminism section but a section 'about' feminism, perhaps we need to be warning people about this up front?

[Beachcomber]

I'm of the opinion that it needs to made clear that whilst the title may be 'feminism/women's rights', this section is quite different to other boards that deal with feminism/women's rights.

It isn't fair to mislead - lots of posters expect the section to be a place where feminist views can be freely explored without fear of posters' mental health being questioned, and a zone where misogyny is unwelcome. In reality, pretty much anything goes here and whilst it is, of course, MNHQ's prerogative to run their site as they see fit, some sort of disclaimer about the section seems only fair in order to forewarn posters (especially posters looking for support or exploration of sensitive issues).

Perhaps it would be an idea for there to be a header at the top of the section stating MNHQ's position?

All suggestions welcomed .

'ang fire, just off to brew up

I might just do that SM. Ta for the tip.

AF: I always thought of you as a southern lass. But with the "R kid" reference you make me think that you might be from my neck of the woods (northwest).

LOL at Beach
And obviously the only-ever-so-slightly-tipsy AF

stop thrutchin around, and get them butties made

this thread is bobbins

when they knock you back you can tell us all. garner support

you skennin' at me, catit ?

^"lol,the passive aggressive striking things oot putdown
if you think i talk ridles just say so.pissing about with whoopsie will say it but strike it out"^

Yep - I think you talk in riddles - see 22:31:22 post. Just thought I'd strike it out the second time I mentioned it. You know for a laf!

Isn't that nice of SM to offer support. I must say I don't find your posts hard to understand.

evidently you had to explain the joke.as it was so apparent
a positive mirth fest

no,funnily they dont misunderstand when challenging
but do misunderstand when suits

Perhaps I should take up dialect-type wherever I go

it's fun

and really very irritating...which is part of the fun, of course

it's rather hard work though...much harder than just typing plain English

having to deliberately add in the incorrect grammar and cliched words is rather wearing for an educated person, I feel quite scunnered

and no, I've not been on't pop

what are you trying to say in a trying too hard kinda way

Skens like a basket of whelks
Duz'tuh? " Tha does'nt like it, Duz'tuh?
Mi yeds aw muggl't up.
Who dust think I am ?"

ant and dec or huffty

I could do with some Soot.

is it mathew corbett.is that the soot reference?

sleep

my only cockney is gold reruns of fools & orses
soot,that obviously went straight over my head

i see further back a call to ignore me.like fem topics of yore
ah that familiar recognition as someone pipes up are you a troll/are you drunk/ignore her/what about the menz/derailer to distract from i dont like that pov, cant say that here to a post not liked

and still fem topics wonder why there are/were threads about how unwelcoming and harsh people find posting

lets see...
habitual name calling
commands to ignore
cliquey vibe

fem topics dont need different or tippey toe moderation
they need to accommodate range of opinion and not revert to default namecalling

Nice to see you this evening SM. How are you doing? My DC went swimming thus afternoon and cried all the way through. I hope you had a better day.

all going swimming tomorrow as it happens
we do big cook & freeze
im tired.its cold and dreich

That's precisely what I don't miss about Scotland ( I lived there nigh on 10 years) the dreicht. Here in Mexico it's raining too, but it's not cold nor miserable. Plus the sums shines more as a rule!
Enjoy your swim.

i have been thinking about this - so my response will relate more to earlier comments which i have pondered upon.

it's just plain rude to keep popping up & objecting. I wouldn't go on a thread about blw, and just say 'you shouldn't wean your child' within a few posts, and keep doing that. i wouldn't stand at the school gates, ear-wigging, and just but in on a conversation, and say 'you shouldn't even be talking about that' to someone.

so it's not acceptable to just pop up on feminist threads & object for the sake of objecting. if you have a valid point to raise (whether in agreement or dissent), then that's fine. but otherwise, you just look socially gauche to butt in with irrelevant comments.

in rl, people who did that would probably get a and then be ignored. if it was about a sensitive subject (e.g. rape) then they'd probably be told to be quiet and let others speak.

so that's how I react to these people on here. the persistent people, I would like to be able to blank somehow, after all, someone who deliberately antagonised me in rl, I would just shrug & ignore, or avoid & I would like to be able to do that, even if the conversation ended up a little disjointed which can happen anyway

That is about the long and the short of it kickassangel.

Which of course brings us to 'but this is an open forum people can post what they like'. Except, as we all very well know, that is not the whole story. In reality it is; 'this is an open forum and people can post what they like within reason and they must remain within the guidelines'.

From the guidelines;

We'd appreciate it if you'd use the same courtesy when posting messages on Talk as you would use when speaking to someone face-to-face. Please do bear in mind how difficult this parenting business can be, and if there's one thing all of us could do with, it's some moral support.

Which is exactly what you just said. I think a lot of stuff gets said on this section, and no doubt on others, that folks just plain wouldn't say face to face.

Of course the nature of a forum, especially one with 'active conversations', is that we can find ourselves reading or taking part in a conversation that we probably wouldn't naturally have off the internet. Sometimes that can be brilliant because it opens up one's perspective - sometimes it is not so good if it leads you to saying 'you are mad/stupid/extreme/man hating for even wanting to discuss this'.

My natural reaction to someone saying the above is; 'then don't discuss it with me if it is a subject you don't consider of merit, but would you mind letting those of us who do, continue our discussion'.

But we are meany exclusive elitist muttering zealots, apparently by reacting in this way. I'm kinda at a loss to understand that myself. It feels kind of silencing.

I don't think anyone on this thread has accused the feminist topic of being elitist (or full of zealots). I fact I just searched the word on the thread and it has come up several times and always as a denial by the regulars. It just isn't elitist, and I don't know why anyone would think of it that way. The people who post there aren't an "elite."