In light of MNHQ's recent statement that the feminism section is in fact not a feminism section but a section 'about' feminism, perhaps we need to be warning people about this up front?

[Beachcomber]

I'm of the opinion that it needs to made clear that whilst the title may be 'feminism/women's rights', this section is quite different to other boards that deal with feminism/women's rights.

It isn't fair to mislead - lots of posters expect the section to be a place where feminist views can be freely explored without fear of posters' mental health being questioned, and a zone where misogyny is unwelcome. In reality, pretty much anything goes here and whilst it is, of course, MNHQ's prerogative to run their site as they see fit, some sort of disclaimer about the section seems only fair in order to forewarn posters (especially posters looking for support or exploration of sensitive issues).

Perhaps it would be an idea for there to be a header at the top of the section stating MNHQ's position?

All suggestions welcomed .

Sm - maybe you should alter your posting style so that people understand what you are saying? It's a sort of responsibility as a poster?
Often I am lost on what you mean, even just this evening.

i dont have a "responsibility" to phrase content in certain way
i have to adhere to mnhq rules like everyone else
thats about it really

Catitainahatita - I liked your suggestions.

What does anyone else think. We don't want to lose valuable posts like that amidst all these riddles other posts.

no leB i havent instructed how one should post
i have asserted fem topics dont need disclaimers and suggestions as to appropriate content.as it isnt any diferent to any other open topic here on mn. i have contented the paranoiac thinking and cant say that here themes which seem to be v prevalent

to make your words a bit cogent would be good. But ok.

lol,the passive aggressive striking things oot putdown
if you think i talk ridles just say so.pissing about with whoopsie will say it but strike it out

Yes, totally ghastly to suggest that posters should have the right to challenge an argument that they find misogynist.

Even more terrible that the same feminists who do not agree with each other all the time should be allowed to refer to themselves by a collective/plural personal pronoun.

Thank you SM. It's so useful to have you here to show me the weakness of my argument.

curiously im enougb understood to paraphrase,object to and protest
cant be that hard after all

we already have a they to moderate=mnhq. dont need others to wade in

cat cant you see that there is no uniformity of what is troll,misogynist etc so unlikely a definitive set of ideological parameters can be enforced

The whole point about my suggestion is that is strives not to be prohibitive. It makes no assertions about what can or can't be said. It merely states -the bloody obvious in my opinion- that if you post in a section where a number of feminists are known to hang out, you should be aware that they will be very likely to examine anything you say from a feminist perspective and thus, point out misogyny when they see it.

I really hope things can all be worked out.

For now, for the sake of my mental health, I'm hiding the whole lot

Fare thee all well

youse are madferrit, arr kid

Y'awlreet ?

There are no ideological parameters being enforced. The statement contains no definition of feminism nor directives on how this "perspective" might be employed. It also is careful to say "perceived misogyny" as to make it clear that not everyone will necessarily agree that the phrase/sentiment is misogyny.

there is no critical mass of collective they here on fem topics
hence the hand wringing about why doesnt mn support adequately topic
why do people troll etc
and the disputes over how topic should be organised
frankly there have been enough strident and hectoring ideologues without endorsing some notion of they and what is acceptable

Oi you lot what is going on 'ere then? I nip off for a bit to rest my poor ill frame, and the thread has run amok by the time I come back. Whoda thunk it eh?

Catitainahatita - thanks for posting your suggestion. I think it is very sensible indeed. MNHQ are reading this thread so hopefully they will take it on board.

Is it wrong to encourage AF by arfing?

Thank you Beach and Forkful. I'm glad you liked my suggestion; it's taken me all day to cook up.

SM: Feminists in plural however different their ideas might be can only be refered to as "they" when substituting the noun for the pronoun. I really don't know what you are arguing against. The English language in general? It's not the most logical language I know, but on this point it is crystal clear. Thus using "they" in the statement infers nothing more than the fact there there is more than one feminist on this board; no collective personality, nothing.

gerrin berrer all the time...

I thought it was a really positive way to look at it.

Nobody else has come up with quite such a positive spin on the header idea. I like it a lot.

sound

'avin it laaaaarge

so email your header suggestion to mnhq,see what they say

me 'eads in bits, must've been on't pop

Are you doing a region medley AF or is that meant to be all the same place?