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The departure of dittany

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Pan · 15/09/2011 21:20

I only know that she has left, and in her post she didn't say much as to why, though some people can speculate and imagine why.

Quite a few days ago (last weekend I think) there were threads that pinpointed the lack of consideration that MNHQ has toward the sort of trolls that infest the FS section from time to time - different in nature and purpose to your average troll that infects MN from time to time.

It may well be that d. is in contact with regular posters whom she trusts. I don't know.

What I do know is that d. was a fabulous source of invigoration and illumination to a lot of posters, myself included, though we didn't always agree with her.

I would like a review from MNHQ of their current "talk guidlines" policy, in order that the FS is provided with a consideration that recognises the particular vulnerability that it experiences.

D. left for her own reasons - but this presents itself as a sort of 'test case' for MN to respond sensitively.

Would anyone agree and post here in support of this?

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scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 23:29

seeking respect and moderation and safe space
dishing out jibes and asking folks why they post
indeed it seems there is a v clear line on what some on mn will tolerate
but no limits to what they will give

AnyFucker · 21/09/2011 23:30

I find myself just being plain silly on Feminism threads these days, because I think what is the point, it's being derailed again anyway

I will give up very soon, I think, and go back to being a prat on AIBU

Do the derailers win then ? You betcha they do, because MNHQ won't deal with them

MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 21/09/2011 23:31

Happy Birthday!

If we lost our 'strident', 'got at attitude' and stopped 'whinig' and 'set some boundaries' and didn't want people to 'tippy toe around' us or left to set up a 'feminist board' as this is only a feminist 'section', what would you do with all your time ScottishMummy?

LeninGrad · 21/09/2011 23:31

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swallowedAfly · 21/09/2011 23:32

oh god it's open season now isn't it?

everyone can pop in and tell feminists how crap they are, how the 'regulars' are getting it all wrong etc without actually contributing anything like starting threads or posting here etc.

pass me that bottle portofino - happy bloody birthday!

Portofino · 21/09/2011 23:32

I think that it is "unwelcoming" because the fundamental feminist message goes so much against most people's status quo that it make them positively uncomfortable. I can relate to this.

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swallowedAfly · 21/09/2011 23:33

oh do stop droning on will you sm

it feels like you've been talking FOREVER and yet always saying the same bloody thing in varying states of clarity.

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 23:33

again its a collective and subjective of what is derailer
its oft touted so much its cliché
derailer on fem topics seems to mean cant say that here

swallowedAfly · 21/09/2011 23:33

are you a feminist by the way sm? i'm curious.

Portofino · 21/09/2011 23:34

Doesn't mean it is wrong or bad though. Hic.

LeninGrad · 21/09/2011 23:34

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scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 23:34

droning on?take that as dont kiss arse

swallowedAfly · 21/09/2011 23:34

oh god she's still going.

if i hear, 'can't say that here' or 'this is a discursive forum' one more time i may have to go to do a computer course to invent my own bloody ignore function.

AnyFucker · 21/09/2011 23:34

You coming to AIBU to be a prat with me, LG ?

nah, leave that to me, I am a master at it

VictorGollancz · 21/09/2011 23:35

Yes, circles are frustrating. But there's lots of lurkers round these parts and at least they can see for themselves what's going on here.

Bogonya, you might not know but there's been loads of threads started for newbies (including a really good one by forkful which I've asked at least four times to be permanently placed at the top of this board) which were super-friendly and dealt with the basics and answered each and every question put to them. None of these threads have reached more than 200 posts.

And yet the threads telling feminist posters exactly how unhinged and unfriendly they are regularly hit 1000+. If all that anger was spent asking questions a lot of infrequent posters would find that actually, all these unfriendly feminists are well prepared to discuss and educate.

LeninGrad · 21/09/2011 23:35

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AnyFucker · 21/09/2011 23:37

LG...you are calm and restrained normally

what happened to you ?

I always cringe when you saunter on to a thread to witness me being an absolute arse Grin

swallowedAfly · 21/09/2011 23:37

or hegemony - that was the word of the moment last week.

i feel like i'm stuck in a loop.

bed! thanks for the drink porto

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 23:37

indeed and if posters stopped name-calling perhaps there would be a fluidity and spontaneous discussion. rather than is you,or is you not,one of us

AnyFucker · 21/09/2011 23:38

oh, I had to give that thread the swerve

I would have got banned

swallowedAfly · 21/09/2011 23:38

i got my arse kicked on that thread about the dh being a twat yesterday af - was glad to see your face there.

AnyFucker · 21/09/2011 23:40

saf, but you were right

some people just can't take the harsh truth

MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 21/09/2011 23:41

I'm contrary AnyFucker. I was a lurker but the more people came onto this section to troll and try to derail threads, the more I realised how important it was to learn more about feminism. After all, this is something that makes people feel so threatened that they seek out places that use the 'f' word to attack them.

They post that people must be unbalanced or mad to think that way - they can't debate the point so they attack and belittle the poster instead. They accuse feminists of being humourless, man-hating, blowing things out of proportion and finding things to be offended about. They oppose the very concept of feminism.

Anything that makes people react so strongly must be powerful stuff.

swallowedAfly · 21/09/2011 23:41

i have low tolerance for stepford wifism

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