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The departure of dittany

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Pan · 15/09/2011 21:20

I only know that she has left, and in her post she didn't say much as to why, though some people can speculate and imagine why.

Quite a few days ago (last weekend I think) there were threads that pinpointed the lack of consideration that MNHQ has toward the sort of trolls that infest the FS section from time to time - different in nature and purpose to your average troll that infects MN from time to time.

It may well be that d. is in contact with regular posters whom she trusts. I don't know.

What I do know is that d. was a fabulous source of invigoration and illumination to a lot of posters, myself included, though we didn't always agree with her.

I would like a review from MNHQ of their current "talk guidlines" policy, in order that the FS is provided with a consideration that recognises the particular vulnerability that it experiences.

D. left for her own reasons - but this presents itself as a sort of 'test case' for MN to respond sensitively.

Would anyone agree and post here in support of this?

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scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 21:24

ease up on the got at christine,i post prolifically across mn.i post here as i wish. because i want to.a topic catches my eye i post.why do you assume a malicious intent?if we are getting to being told wrong i have never name called here but have been called troll etc

your premise is wrong but indicative if the tippy toe around and different moderation some seek for fem topics.

StayFrosty · 21/09/2011 21:26

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Beachcomber · 21/09/2011 21:28

SM I'm astonished that this thread caught your eye saying as how you don't recall dittany or her posts.

frumpyq · 21/09/2011 21:29

What this sounds like BC is exclusivity.

This thread was about a poster who left a message board, it happens every day of every year on the internet.

Feminism can and has affected everyone's lives for the better and dare I say it the worst in small cases, so everyone should have the right to read,digest and indeed question if they feel the need.

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 21:29

beach with those suggested posts you'll fit right on in
i regularly get asked how i could abandon my children at 6mth to daycare orphanage.why did i have them

so go on ,do ask the working mums why they dont sahm.
you wont be first you wont be last
except they dont ask for different tippy toe moderation or feel got at

welcome to mn,its all up for discussion and a poke about

Beachcomber · 21/09/2011 21:30

Alice - I am going to start a thread about this. Do you mind if I use part of your post as a title?

I was thinking of this bit.

"It so needs to made clear that whilst the title may be 'feminism/women's rights', it is like no other boards that deal with feminism/women's rights in the universe. It isn't fair to mislead."

AliceWyrld · 21/09/2011 21:31

Feel free Beachcomber. I feel honoured Grin

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 21:31

see you there

CoteDAzur · 21/09/2011 21:32

Am I reading this correctly? Some of you seem to be saying that only those with a particularly extremist view of feminism should post in the Feminism/Women's Rights section.

So when someone says "All porn actors are rapists", we can't point out that is just crazy talk, because she is a regular?

ThereBeBolloX · 21/09/2011 21:33

But do you go to the chicken keepers and tell them it serves them right when the fox gets in SM? Or to the lone parents section to bang on about the importance of marriage? Or to the step mothers section to wonder why they took up with another woman's leavings?

Wouldn't anyone who consistently did that, be thoroughly unhinged? But people do that all the time on the feminist board and it's considered not unhinged. Well, some of us consider it unhinged, but that's prob because we're raging extremists.

frumpyq · 21/09/2011 21:33

That's the way I read it CoteDazur.

No doubt some clarification will come.

AliceWyrld · 21/09/2011 21:33

No you're not CoteDAzur

Beachcomber · 21/09/2011 21:34

What do you reckon about spouting racist views in multicultural families and accusing parents of lying.

Do you think that sort of posting will fit right in too?

Do you think posters who post repeatedly about SAHMing in the Going Back to Work section are contributing anything positive or do you think they are just being fucking rude and out of order?

ThereBeBolloX · 21/09/2011 21:36

sm I think it's slightly different on the wohm / sahm thing, in that you'll always get newbies/ loons coming along demanding to know why you've abandoned your DCs/ are sponging off your husband but you don't generally get posters who dedicate themselves to doing that nearly every thread and post either never or rarely on other parts of MN. But you do get posters like that here.

Beachcomber · 21/09/2011 21:38

No Cote. We are asking for a header making it clear that all viewpoints and perspectives are welcome in the feminist section - including ones which attack feminists and ones which are misogynistic.

In the interest of transparency if you like.

You see people keep thinking that the feminist section is a feminist section. It is all very confusing.

CoteDAzur · 21/09/2011 21:38

Beachcomber - I honestly don't think that the goal of all MNers should be to "fit in" on threads they are posting.

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 21:39

oh rubbish what got at tosh
working mums get a mn pasting daily

mn henious acts are
working ft
formula feeding
use of nursery
..and daily someone rocks up with dm, shitsville uni, and Dr YibbleYabble on youtube with proof to substantiate it.i dont see the working mums or ff mums all aghast asking for spesh treatment from mnhq

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 21:40

no its not a feminist section
its topic about feminism
on an open forum

Beachcomber · 21/09/2011 21:42

Neither do I Cote.

I just think we need to let people know that they are likely to be called insane and emotionally damaged if they express feminist views in the feminist section.

Seems only fair to let them know that feminist views don't really fit in because the feminist section isn't a feminist section as such IYSWIM.

LeninGrad · 21/09/2011 21:42

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CoteDAzur · 21/09/2011 21:44

That header sounds like a good idea. At least, next time regulars gang up on the more moderate among us, they can be told to re-read the thread header.

Hullygully · 21/09/2011 21:45

Meanwhile the patriarchy carry on ruling the world

frumpyq · 21/09/2011 21:47

Like this post.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/1305411-A-feminist-discriminating-against-women

Sometimes it just comes out of nowhere.

Do I need a badge or sign a form to say i'm in the club before I can post without being ridden like a poorly liveried donkey?

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 21:47

no on on mn irks me enough to hide the,good grief no,its not real
dont commit names to memory just read posts and respond

ThereBeBolloX · 21/09/2011 21:47

"working mums get a mn pasting daily"

But not by the same tedious regular posters who do nothing else.

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